Ableton 10 suggestions

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Don Grubius
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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by Don Grubius » Sun Dec 04, 2016 12:37 pm

I would love the ability to to "hide and make inactive" certain tracks. When I load up my template, I don't always use the amount of tracks that I have set up, so instead of deleting them, Id like to utilize a feature that Pro Tools has.

Riggs_df
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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by Riggs_df » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:13 pm

1. An option to pre-determine length of audio sample before recording.

For example... If I'm wanting to record a guitar loop and I'm using my launchpad or APC to launch the record start, if I only want a 4 bar loop, it means stopping playing somewhere between the 4th and 5th bar to then push the pad to finish the recording so it loops, resulting in the end of the performance being missing or rushed and sounding terrible. If we didn't have to worry about that second button press and could carry on playing until it looped round, this would open up a lot of new possibilities. As with the idea of adding an empty MIDI clip into session view and then overdubbing say a keyboard part into it and after the set amount of bars of the part it automatically loops... an option to be able to pre-determine the length of an audio recording loop would be great.

2. The option to export as mp3.

3. The ability to bounce/embed fx directly onto audio samples.

I think having a drop down menu when you right click on an audio sample in the session view that brings up both the list of stock plugins and third party plugins with the ability to then edit the parameters and bounce/consolidate the effect directly onto the sample would help us live performers out a lot. When building live sets in session view and needing just a little eq or reverb on a certain sample, its quite a long process and a flow breaker to have to take the audio sample into the arrangement view, find the effect, tweak parameters, freeze, flatten and re-add into the session view. This would be a great addition!

Obviously, there is the option to freeze and flatten the sample in session view already, but if you have a lot of different samples on the same channel for different songs, it means moving all of the other sounds out of that channel before going through the processing for just that one sound.

(It would be great to have this option in arrange view as well.)
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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by Riggs_df » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:18 pm

... and also, to be able to add sub groups inside of a group would be very cool.
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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by S-N-S » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:22 pm

i Really hope Ableton steps up and add ALOT of the features thats been asked for by users the last years,at one time Live was really innovative,but now it seems they are falling behind a great deal.

but im sure they have some good stuff in version 10(fingers crossed)

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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by Idonotlikebroccoli » Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:16 pm

I'm really very happy with Live 9. I only feel limited when I get more complex ideas going, need to change chords, and I can't view multiple MIDI clips at once. Isotonik's solution takes away some of the pain, but I'd much rather have a native implementation. Also, the pitch bend bug just makes me wanna cry.

Here's my list from page 1, with the ones in bold being the really essential ones for me:
Idonotlikebroccoli wrote:I would like almost everything on page 1 of top voted at Centercode:

Grouping within a group
Edit Multiple Midi-Clips
In-clip audio editing
Freeze and Flatten side-chained tracks
Bounce in Place
Tagging plug-ins by category
Comping tool
MP3 export
Automation snap to Grid
More than 8 macros
Graphics Elements compensation
EQ8 Linear mode / dynamic eq + More Filter Slope options for EQ8.
chord Identification in piano roll
custom keyboard shortcuts
Undo after save!
Add more curves for automations

Not from top voted page 1:

Chase MIDI notes (being able to play from middle of MIDI note)
Native modulation (LFO, envelope generator, etc.)
Being able to adjust knobs of automated parameters
Type automation values with keyboard
Clip background colour in arrangement view
More MIDI editing tools (split, click+drag draw, strum, etc)
Double-click to create MIDI clips in arrangement view
Plugin sandbox (crash protection)
Show/hide tracks
Inline piano roll in arrangement view

And have pitch bend reset to 0! Shit's driving me mad: SUG-0986: make it so Pitch Bend in MIDI clip modulation does not get stuck on old values
Please vote! Live 10's "multi" clip editing should allow selection+editing of multiple clips in one action:

(L10-SUG-0228) Multiple MIDI transpose

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=228094

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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by jeff cox » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:20 am

would defo be in favour of the integrated Melodyne (Logic & Cubase have this functionality native)
also the freeze just the plugin synth/sampler and leave the FX (but should be optional)
sub groups (I know you can create an audio channel and route group into it but would be nicer to create groups within groups)
freeze more than 1 group at a time, at present I can only freeze tracks within one group, but I find when I get to the stage of freezing tracks I typically tend to do 3-4 groups at that time.
thanks

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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by stereodrive » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:00 pm

Jbvdb wrote:I/O naming! Yes!
+1!!!!

eclipxe
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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by eclipxe » Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:16 pm

Push 2: Build instruments from the device, including from a Drum Rack

16 Levels for Pitch in Drum Rack

More copy/paste/midi-clip editing features for Push

Chain controls on Push

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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by Horselover Fat » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:22 pm

Points 1 to 7 in this post, please: viewtopic.php?p=1712556#p1712556
Otherwise control of 3rd party devices stays an unreliable hassle that is in the way of an effective workflow.

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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by antic604 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:52 am

Linked clips:
A bit of background - I come from tracker world (ProTracker on Amiga, Renoise in modern times) and I switched to Live9 because I was fed up with being hamstrung by the very rigid structure of a pattern, which you can compared to Live9's scene, but even more constrained: all tracks are the same length, a lot of tedious copy & paste is involved in building an arrangement if you want to add variations and it's very difficult to keep track of song-wide automations. I wanted to be able to create music from small bits & pieces (clips) of varying length and type, because some are short & repetitive, other are long and complex and further still there are some one-off events, etc. This is exactly what Live9 - or Bitwig, that I also considered - are for. HOWEVER, I was really surprised to see that the clips I create in Session, after being dragged to Arrangement, are no longer linked, i.e. if I change something in one of the views, the other one doesn't get updated. I can see why that might be useful - Session is more for toying with ideas, trying stuff up and doing quick sketches, while Arrangement is for creating the final piece, with song-wide automations, a bit more variety to otherwise static / repetitive parts, more complex one-off events like transitions, breaks & fades. If you'd like to move those back to Session view to use them in live situations, you have to manually create clips and move them over. Thinking about it I could see some workflow issues, but they could probably be addressed by introducing some rules, e.g. if you change a clip in Session, it gets updated everywhere in Arrangement; if you change a clip in Arrangement, it gets ADDED as a variation to the Session view. That would be a great OPTION (not a default behaviour) to have, IMO.

Automation clips:
I guess that's pretty much self-explanatory, but it would make editing of automation in the arranger view so much easier, e.g. when the same automation sequence (e.g. volume rising from -inf to 0dB) can happen a lot of times during the tune but for different MIDI/sample sequences and throughout different tracks. If one could create an automation clip and copy & paste it wherever, it would be great.

User-defined number of macros:
Again, pretty easy to grasp - in racks there's always 8 macros at the front, but sometimes I just need 4, sometimes 12 so if I could decide how much of them is available & visible it would be great. As it is now, it's either wasting the screen space (<8 macros needed) or one needs to map some controls to macros and some to the instrument/effect parameters directly, losing easy overview (>8 controls needed).

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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by Stromkraft » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:08 pm

S-N-S wrote:i Really hope Ableton steps up and add ALOT of the features thats been asked for by users the last years,at one time Live was really innovative,but now it seems they are falling behind a great deal.
BS
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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by Stromkraft » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:10 pm

Riggs_df wrote: 2. The option to export as mp3.
This is so unnecessary. Learn to operate easy to find software that can do MP3 and som many more formats and stop imposing trivial feature requests on Ableton.

Live should remain a Pro Studio Application and not cater to hobbyists!
Make some music!

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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by antic604 » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:24 pm

Stromkraft wrote:
Riggs_df wrote: 2. The option to export as mp3.
This is so unnecessary. Learn to operate easy to find software that can do MP3 and som many more formats and stop imposing trivial feature requests on Ableton.

Live should remain a Pro Studio Application and not cater to hobbyists!
That sounds elitist, but I agree. What's next? Upload to Bandcamp? Album cover editor? Promotional blurb generator? Pricing strategy optimiser? ;) :D

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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by Jabbon » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:55 pm

Assuming that in a dream world, marketing issues are ging to be secondary, and premising that Live is still a great product-
I would love Abe 10 to be a 10 fingers multitouch hardware in 3D.
(I understand though that too many users feel richer in content if they can access the software thinking they are using an "analog style" thingy)

Tracks in session view are in 2d, but you could eventually swipe the interface and see the progression of thw waveform in 3D, plus a direct representation of the spectra at that moment in time...
All spectral morphing, where one can directly intervene on the spectral content of the waveform with a finger!


In the meanwhile,
1) bigger GUI for triggering clips for multitouch
2) a better GUI overall for multitouch
3) instead of knobs the use of multilsiders/sliders, always optimized for touch
4) better CPU handling: I cannot believe that i7s latest generations have buffering/glith problems (partly because of Apple collapsing, indeed)
with buffer rates of 256 samps with just 8 tracks.
On Max I have 32 samps with no glitch and tons of things going on, and I am using Max as a comparison because the 2 worlds are indeed close (and I am only super happy!!!).
5) solving the scene launch issue (since L8 I have clicks when triggering a scene via GUI, even with 2 tracks - only solution:erasing all stop buttons).


I should say that algo-generation and so on is so well handled by Max that the combination of the 2 (L+M) indeed allow so many approaches that it can get confusing, but they are so amazing!

So yes, I would suggest strongly to Ableton that they should eye the future of computing, which is indeed changing, by delivering a Multitouch HW, and leave behind obsolete controlling principles such as Push (which is indeed a nice machine, but not in line with the times).

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Re: Ableton 10 suggestions

Post by miyaru » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:59 pm

Small, but sometimes needed: a panic button......
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