Disable Automation Recording in Arrangement View (Bug)

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docbot
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Disable Automation Recording in Arrangement View (Bug)

Post by docbot » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:43 pm

I think this is actually a bug, considering there is now dedicated Buttons to

1.) Disable Automation Recording
2.) Lock Automation Lanes

Problem

If you want to record from Sessions View into the Arrangement View in a more dubby Way (adjusting faders on bit on the fly), but actually just want to jam out a Arrangement, there is no way to disable the recording of the Volume Automation. This Behaviour seems like a bug, because it also does so when Automation Recording is actually off and also if the Automation Lanes are locked. Which both should make Ableton not do this. Sure you can delete all the automation afterwards, but it's a hassle to have to do this every time and it just seems like a Bug (Usability wise).

If I'm doing something wrong, please enlighten me.

pottering
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Re: Disable Automation Recording in Arrangement View (Bug)

Post by pottering » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:17 pm

It is not a bug, as it is mentioned in the manual.

https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/sessi ... rrangement
During Session-to-Arrangement recording, automation in Session clips is always recorded to the Arrangement, as are any manual changes to parameters in tracks that are being recorded from the Session.

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Re: Disable Automation Recording in Arrangement View (Bug)

Post by chrk » Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:33 am

And https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/autom ... -envelopes is about keeping them in their place on the timeline/grid when clips are moved.

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Re: Disable Automation Recording in Arrangement View (Bug)

Post by docbot » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:14 pm

Just because it is stated in the manual doesn't make this behaviour logical imo.
Doing this should be easily possible, but it's not

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Re: Disable Automation Recording in Arrangement View (Bug)

Post by docbot » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:03 pm

Still need somebody to help me out, I'm looking for a way to jam out my tracks from the scene view into the arrangment view without recording volume automation while still being able to adjust the volume faders on the fly? I am sure this must be possible somehow

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Re: Disable Automation Recording in Arrangement View (Bug)

Post by S4racen » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:26 pm

docbot wrote:without recording volume automation while still being able to adjust the volume faders on the fly?
So you don't want the volume automation but want to adjust the volume?

Doesn't really make sense the way you've put it so it wouldn't be possible....

Cheers
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Re: Disable Automation Recording in Arrangement View (Bug)

Post by pottering » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:00 pm

Record the automation using a Utility instead of the Mixer slider (or vice versa).

You can use Groups too, they have another gain slider (it is located after the Tracks' faders in the signal flow, while an Utility would be pre-fader, obviously).

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Re: Disable Automation Recording in Arrangement View (Bug)

Post by docbot » Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:39 pm

S4racen wrote:
docbot wrote:without recording volume automation while still being able to adjust the volume faders on the fly?
So you don't want the volume automation but want to adjust the volume?

Doesn't really make sense the way you've put it so it wouldn't be possible....

Cheers
D
why? have you heard of dub mixing? I often just make changes to volume relationships while getting the sequence down, but don't want to actually record volume automation.

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