preset system
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preset system
The current preset system is simply atrocious. Hot swap button then double click. The capability is there in third party plug-ins to select presets from a drop down within the Ableton container. Why can't Ableton do this with their own FX and instruments? I assume it's something top do with the base code that no-one at Ableton appears to want to address.
But even the current system would work much better if the procedure was: 1) click hot swap button on device; 2) first click: select first preset from browser (where all other presets for e.g. that FX are; 3)use arrow keys to select +load preset 4) selected key/ hot swap button deselect to come out of preset load mode.
In contrast, the current procedure is: 1) click hot swap button on device; 2) click on preset to select; 3) click on preset again to load; 4) move mouse/ direction arrow to load next preset; 5) click on mouse to select next preset; 6) click on mouse to load preset... Totally totally ridiculous.
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But even the current system would work much better if the procedure was: 1) click hot swap button on device; 2) first click: select first preset from browser (where all other presets for e.g. that FX are; 3)use arrow keys to select +load preset 4) selected key/ hot swap button deselect to come out of preset load mode.
In contrast, the current procedure is: 1) click hot swap button on device; 2) click on preset to select; 3) click on preset again to load; 4) move mouse/ direction arrow to load next preset; 5) click on mouse to select next preset; 6) click on mouse to load preset... Totally totally ridiculous.
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Re: preset system
1 - Click the hotswap button. Live automatically selects the folder the current preset comes from, no need to click in the browser.
2 - Use arrow keys to move around and find a preset. 3 - Press enter to select it.
4 - Press Escape to close hotswap.
OR
Click hotswap.
Double click the preset you want.
Press escape to exit hotswap.
2 - Use arrow keys to move around and find a preset. 3 - Press enter to select it.
4 - Press Escape to close hotswap.
OR
Click hotswap.
Double click the preset you want.
Press escape to exit hotswap.
Re: preset system
Better yet: Press Q to enable Hot Swap.
No need to touch the mouse whatsoever to navigate presets in Live.
No need to touch the mouse whatsoever to navigate presets in Live.
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Re: preset system
Awesome ideas.
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Re: preset system
That would be a great little change.
Adding usability as well as consistency with their racks and 3rd party VSTs...
Adding usability as well as consistency with their racks and 3rd party VSTs...
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Re: preset system
I assume you know this is how it already works.
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Re: preset system
Yes but the double click or pressing enter seems totally unnecessary i.e. no other preset system has this extra step.
Re: preset system
Ableton's stumble over preset handling is exposed best by the fact that Main Stage exists
Ableton had a stranglehold on the "live performance" laptop person on stage market.
It's just that they never addressed the need for a performer to flip through presets AND through instruments / layers.
There are all kinds of funky workarounds involving chains, ghost clips, etc (all of which I use)
But the fact that Main Stage could gain any foothold at all shows there's a massive gap here.
Ableton had a stranglehold on the "live performance" laptop person on stage market.
It's just that they never addressed the need for a performer to flip through presets AND through instruments / layers.
There are all kinds of funky workarounds involving chains, ghost clips, etc (all of which I use)
But the fact that Main Stage could gain any foothold at all shows there's a massive gap here.