Please Please Please - More than 1 automation line + fades

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:12 am

Drives me mad only being able to see one line of automation at a time for each track. Why on earth hasn't this been changed? Just imagine...recording some automation on a track and then being able to unfold the track to reveal all the automation!

Im getting increasingly frustrated with live, everyone says its much quicker/simpler/easier/straight forward than other DAWs, which it is to a certain extent but things like only being able to view one line of automation, only being able to see the fx on one track at a time, no fades is driving me mad. Its just so unnecessary to need that many mouse clicks to do such simple things.

Take clip envelopes to do a fade in/out on a clip. If i have a clip that I want to fade in I have to click to select it, double click to get clip info, click to show envelopes (if they are not showing), click to select clip, click to select clip volume, and then click to draw the curve. THIS IS MADNESS! potentially 7 bloody mouse clicks just to get a fade in, WTF!!? If I remember correctly from my cubase days all you needed to do was ONE CLICK & DRAG to fade in/out a clip. Please, this is total lunacy to have such a system. Clip envelopes are great but this is just silly.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:13 pm

I'am so with you on this one..

this is really a workflowstopper..

hope they will implement this a bit like logic handles this,
and then ofcourse the Ableton way..

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:47 pm

just you & me then poster

mauve · Post by **mauve** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:54 pm

100%

paveloso · Post by **paveloso** » Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:32 pm

Count me in on this one.

I've been waiting for fades for a while now (hell... maybe it's time to get Cubase?).

And yes, a fold/unfold button to see all automation lines would be so cool, too.

Daim · Post by **Daim** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:18 am

posssu · Post by **posssu** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:35 am

+1

Yes please, the possibility would be very nice. But still in a way, that they can be hidden if you don't need them.

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:01 am

I like to link my mock-up pic on these kind of threads:

it's kind of create-a-view

http://home.earthlink.net/~ohronny/arr-idea.jpg

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:13 am

good work longjohns, looks very interesting. I think it could work like that

serotoninsteve · Post by **serotoninsteve** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:59 pm

longjohns wrote:I like to link my mock-up pic on these kind of threads:

it's kind of create-a-view

http://home.earthlink.net/~ohronny/arr-idea.jpg

It could be the same as in Tracktion,
there you can even show up every automation in every track.
Let's hope for something like this in the next future.

dancerchris · Post by **dancerchris** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:32 pm

Yes, good idea. It would be simple to plot multiple automations having a switch on the pulldown selector for "all". Plot them in different colors rather than in a different location. if it gets too busy then select the individual plot.

psilosly · Post by **psilosly** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:49 pm

If you had the automations all overlaid on one waveform, you'd definitely need a lock/unlock button so you could just edit certain parameter automations.

BigBuddha · Post by **BigBuddha** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:54 pm

And I don't want to pay for this feature.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:20 pm

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:25 pm

BigBuddha wrote:And I don't want to pay for this feature.

yeah damn right, should be there already....but i get the feeling we will have to pay