The GREAT 128 PARAMETERS CAMPAIGN - Add Support Now :)

nowtime · Post by **nowtime** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:10 am

Bring it on !

mr.adl · Post by **mr.adl** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:18 pm

another

*BUMP*

on this (still) missing feature

Macrostructure · Post by **Macrostructure** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:41 pm

Q - How can I enjoy use Live 'live' when I cannot control the parameters I want to control?

A - Well it's a drag actually. I can do without Essential Instruments (ironically) but this is becoming a big issue.

add your crippled VSTs by name here....

uTonic
Izotope Trash
Minimonsta
Reactor
Symtohm
Automat

blaugruen7 · Post by **blaugruen7** » Mon Dec 24, 2007 9:06 pm

Macrostructure wrote:
add your crippled VSTs by name here....

uTonic
Izotope Trash
Minimonsta
Reactor
Symtohm
Automat

Stylus RMX

Michael Hatsis · Post by **Michael Hatsis** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 6:47 am

This has gotta happen. They are obviously going down the DAW package route with Live 6,7. Don't see how a musician/producer would switch to live knowing that they cant automate their fav params. me i dont use too many VSTs so ive only hit this wall a few times - But I was Like "ah, you gotta be kiddin, come on Live!"

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:22 am

Macrostructure wrote:add your crippled VSTs by name here....

uTonic
Izotope Trash
Minimonsta
Reactor
Symtohm
Automat

Well, Reaktor has the ability to rearrange its assignable parameters, so unless you need to use more than 128 parameters in any one session you'll be good. But I do reckognize the fact that for something like a performance interface one would really just want to get at every parameter all the time.

I think the underlying problem may be much worse for me, personally;
I see the lack of OSC, sysex, 128+ parameter control, recording controls inside session view, lack of overdubbing of audio as things that do matter to me, but haven't been prioritized by Ableton... quietly chopping away at the foundation of what I would consider "needs" to a greater and greater extent in my everyday use of music software.

I still love Ableton Live of course, but every time I bump my head against the wall in these issues and then think of the dev. time put into integrating the AAS stuff and assembling gigs of drum samples in racks it does make me a bit sad, to be fair.

djgroovy · Post by **djgroovy** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:08 pm

Yes, what you say Machinate, makes me think this too:
- Less add-on stuff, more in the included stuff, please. Thank you.

Operator & Sampler are good because they're genuine Ableton, but taking developing time to integrate 3rd party products into Live, and then making us pay for it... hmmmm. I really don't think they should pursue this route anymore.

To be competitive, next release has to address all the big requests from the users, like folder tracks, 128+ params, osc, all the workflow improvements etc, and probably throw in the suite products as part of the program - just look at Logic 8 today...

My 0.02$

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:46 pm

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:53 pm

djgroovy wrote:To be competitive, next release has to address all the big requests from the users, like folder tracks, 128+ params, osc, all the workflow improvements etc...

I agree. It has been said that the even-numbered versions are the big upgrades...I hope this is true.

+1 to 128+ parameter control!

Josh Von · Post by **Josh Von** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:23 am

Use the z3ta constantly, and cant get around the automation limitations.

Need it!

.

Nokatus · Post by **Nokatus** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:15 am

Ker-zblöink.

liveISlife · Post by **liveISlife** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:11 pm

MORE PARAMETERS!!!!!!! MORE PARAMETERS!!!!!!! WE NEED ALL PARAMETERS AUTOMATED!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! IM FLIPPING OUT!!!!!!

WHAT DO WE WANT? MORE PARAMETERS!!! WHEN DO WE WANT THEM? NOWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! (please continue to recite while holding picket sign)

djscorchio · Post by **djscorchio** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:43 pm

Please don't let this limitation survive. I don't really want to work on workarounds all day when I want to automate those unlucky controls. I'm unable to find more basic and important stuff on this wishlist...

glamourboy · Post by **glamourboy** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:04 am

i'm on 6. no fucking way i'm getting 7 before this is FIXED. so FIX it already. (with ya 3rd party plugs an' ya "essential" soundbanks an' ya mumble mumble grrr)

FIX IT!

blaugruen7 · Post by **blaugruen7** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:47 am

i was on phone with NI.
they are very aware of this. but its a bigger deal to implement it und
we will have to wait.