is there an M4L audio gate with sidechain? [PLZ HALP]

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slow.robot
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is there an M4L audio gate with sidechain? [PLZ HALP]

Post by slow.robot » Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:41 pm

anyone know of a decent M4L audio gate lurking out there somewhere in the interwebsverse?

I'm looking for what is essentially a M4L version of the built in Live audio gate (or something with the same basic functionality), to use as a building block for a device I'm trying to build. definitely not looking to reinvent the wheel, since it's really just one component of a larger puzzle--just something functional I can hook into.

I was sure I would find one in the Max for Live Essentials Pack, but I don't see anything that looks like it fits the bill. and of course, when I look at the M4L website, it looks like most of the stuff labeled 'gate' is for sequencer-triggered, or MIDI-triggered gating, which won't get me where I need to be, at least not without the kind of modification I'm hoping to avoid.

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Re: is there an M4L audio gate with sidechain? [PLZ HALP]

Post by pottering » Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:38 am

The sidechain audio routing with menu choosers was new to Live 10 (I think, not 100% sure), older devices won't have the sidechain menus (until Live 9 it needed at least 2 devices, one "send" and one "receive").

For examples of the newer Live 10 sidechain, C74's own Audio Routes package has some (like "Audio Receiver.amxd").

https://cycling74.com/articles/audio-ro ... leton-live
https://maxforlive.com/library/device/5830/audio-routes

There is a tutorial named "Dynamics Tutorial 2: Dynamics Processing" inside Max, and googling for "max msp noise gate" should return other examples like this one from Max Cookbook:

https://music.arts.uci.edu/dobrian/maxc ... ted-sounds

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Re: is there an M4L audio gate with sidechain? [PLZ HALP]

Post by slow.robot » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:15 am

pottering wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:38 am
The sidechain audio routing with menu choosers was new to Live 10 (I think, not 100% sure), older devices won't have the sidechain menus (until Live 9 it needed at least 2 devices, one "send" and one "receive").

For examples of the newer Live 10 sidechain, C74's own Audio Routes package has some (like "Audio Receiver.amxd").

https://cycling74.com/articles/audio-ro ... leton-live
https://maxforlive.com/library/device/5830/audio-routes

There is a tutorial named "Dynamics Tutorial 2: Dynamics Processing" inside Max, and googling for "max msp noise gate" should return other examples like this one from Max Cookbook:

https://music.arts.uci.edu/dobrian/maxc ... ted-sounds
ah, thank you! this should help. makes sense then, why there's a bit of a dearth of gating in M4L--sidechaining is kind of an important feature. for my purposes, the sidechain will be triggered internally (i.e. not using another track in the session), but obviously that's not a very common use case, so I wouldn't expect there to be too many examples floating around.

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