[ddg]Constant crashes when saving my synth...

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stefan-tiedje
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[ddg]Constant crashes when saving my synth...

Post by stefan-tiedje » Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:54 pm

I get reliable crashes with the following patch, an additive synth. Usually it crashes when I save it from Max. But I also had a crash just opening it from Live into Max...
The synth is working without hickups in Max with more than 8 voices (the original Maxpatch would show about 20% DSP). If its just loaded into Live, I can play it, but after 3 voices the DSP is going beyond 50% or 60% and the sound is crackling. You should have received plenty of crash logs...

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/288305/YAAS.zip

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Re: Constant crashes when saving my synth...

Post by emmanuel_2 » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:52 am

stefan-tiedje wrote:I get reliable crashes with the following patch, an additive synth. Usually it crashes when I save it from Max. But I also had a crash just opening it from Live into Max...
The synth is working without hickups in Max with more than 8 voices (the original Maxpatch would show about 20% DSP). If its just loaded into Live, I can play it, but after 3 voices the DSP is going beyond 50% or 60% and the sound is crackling. You should have received plenty of crash logs...

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/288305/YAAS.zip
there are tons of missing abstractions. If you could freeze the device, that would help.
ej

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Re: Constant crashes when saving my synth...

Post by stefan-tiedje » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:00 pm

How do I freeze a device? The documentation reveals 0 results...
This is probably also necessary if I want to share a device...

The whole search paths for a device in Live isn't clear for me, does Live use the Max 5.1 search path? Or are there some extra places Live will search?
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Re: Constant crashes when saving my synth...

Post by stefan-tiedje » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:24 pm

I finally found the freeze button, the complete patch is now at:

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/288305/YAAS.amxd

I hope it is complete, as of course Live crashed while I saved it...

I have another problem now, all these crashes seem to eat my diskspace. I got a warning from OS X about it, it showed remaining 16 MB! A restart brought back about 750 MB, but that is still more than a GB less than I had before. The only thing I was doing was patching. Where could that huge amount of diskspace be gone?...?

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Re: Constant crashes when saving my synth...

Post by Friedemann » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:52 pm

Hi,

regarding disk space: you could check if the folder

~/Library/Application Support/Ableton/Bug Reporting/

got very large for some reason. If this is the case you can delete
the Live Run* folders inside.

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Re: [c74]Constant crashes when saving my synth...

Post by DarwinGrosse » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:52 am

Stefan,

Ben tried to get this patch to crash, and was unable to do so no matter what he did. If possible, could you provide a step-by-step walk-through of a crash for us?

Sorry about this...

[ddg]

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Re: [c74]Constant crashes when saving my synth...

Post by stefan-tiedje » Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:01 am

With the new build its worse. The steps to reproduce for me, open the synth in Max, dirty it somehow (unfreeze move an object), save. 100% crash of Live...
Its worse, because in the old build it would at least sound as expected, now its completely distorted like a 200% overload of the CPU...

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Re: [c74]Constant crashes when saving my synth...

Post by DarwinGrosse » Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:14 pm

We think we might have a handle on this. We will want to try this again with the next beta.

[ddg]

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