Note delay that doesn't lose length value?

[solconnection]

Does anyone have any ideas on how i might go about modifying the M4L.md.07.DelayNotes.adv (Midi Delay Notes) tutorial so as to preserve the note duration and not having to resort to setting a note length.

the comment in the tutorial before it indicates it may be possible, but difficult

"We're going to start building a MIDI harmonizer, but there's something important we're going to have to look at fixing before we start. Simply put, dealing with note-on and note-off messages becomes a complex problem when you are working with delays. While it's not impossible to manage with Max (very few things are), we'd quickly be creating patches whose complexity are beyond the scope of a beginning tutorial. Instead, we're going to do something clever to keep our patch simple and to manage note-on and note-off messages. We'll modify our patch to filter out any note-off messages using the Max stripnote object, and then use the makenote object to create the note-off messages for us. When we send the makenote object a MIDI note, it outputs a MIDI note-on message paired with a velocity value, and - after a specified amount of time - sends a note-off message for the note played."


i guess i am ready to go beyond the scope of the tutorial has anyone already done this code?

i am really loving max so far, its amazing
thanks in advance

[solconnection]

is there a good place to go to ask (or search for already discussed) max things such as this. Im sure it's all been done before but maybe the max beta forum on here isn't the best place to be asking general max questions.?

[hoffman2k]

You need the pipe object. Which remembers multiple events.
Simply putting it between the Midiin and midiout is all you need to do. Then you control the delay by sending a value to the pipe object.

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[solconnection]

thanks for the reply!!!, and double thanks for the patch

i am trying to do this but it's not working:

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 pitch  vel
  \    /
   pack
     |  ( delay )
   pipe/
     |
   unpack
   /   \
   flush
   |    |
   noteout

If i send the pitch and vel straight to the flush it works (produces midi out) but it doesn't seem to like being packed/piped/unpacked for some reason.

any ideas?

thanks again!

[solconnection]

actually, i just found a very useful patcher that does exactly what i want.

it's hidden away in the help page for pipe

[p DelayAnythingWithAnyLength]

works beautifully on packed midi notes.