SY77 editor in M4L - Sysex problem

[lul]

Hello,

I don't know if it has been discussed elsewhere, so...

I was trying to build a sysex editor for my trusty-old-tenderly beloved SY77 YAMAHA
in M4L, and couldn't succeed to send sysex (although I could receive them...)
Just to verify, I copy/paste my patch in the standalone MAX version and... Miracle!!

It worked...

So, what does it mean?

Thanks, guys...

[Gregory Taylor]

This has already been discussed at length - at the present time, the Live application doesn't support working with SysEx. Since Max for Live is hosted, it therefore does not support SysEx. Max *itself* has no problems with SysEx, so anything you do in Max itself (that is, outside of a Max for Live device) as a Max user will be fine. And yes, a request for such functionality in Live has been made quite a few times, with varying degrees of style and decorum.

[lul]

Thanks,

What is weird, is that M4L (and Live, I guess...) DOES receive sysex, it just not transmit them!!

[orgul]

try sending sysex from your max patch to an external software and then to your yamaha.

[3dot...]

try sending sysex from your max patch to an external software and then to your yamaha.

via osc...

[oddeo]

Something like udpsend 127.0.0.1 7401 in your M4L patch and udpreceive 7401 sitting in a maxpatch in MAX Runtime should work.

I just learned this last week and have been perfecting my Juno patch ever since. I will post it later this week or weekend so that you can see how I handles sysex.

[JoeM]

I've gotten data sent back and forth using sysex by processing it all in a small path and using the [s ] and [r ] objects, but I think a limitation is that you need Max running your other patch. I've tried exporting as a .app and the message sending no longer works. Any one know how to do this if it's possible in Max?

I'll try this udp thing. It'd be nice to be able to re-distribute a .app build instead of needing full blown max on any machine running my max4live device.

[julienb]

try sending sysex from your max patch to an external software and then to your yamaha.

via osc...

+1

[oddeo]

You can download my JunoControl patch to see an example of how I overcame this.

http://www.neilbufkin.com/Neil_Bufkin_2 ... O-106.html


I hope this helps.

[JoeM]

I've gotten data sent back and forth using sysex by processing it all in a small patch and using the [s ] and [r ] objects...

Seems I was wrong. This only works in live preview mode. As soon as you close the patch in Max the device stops receiving messages using the [r ] objects working. Oddest thing ever.

[JoeM]

You can download my JunoControl patch to see an example of how I overcame this.

http://www.neilbufkin.com/Neil_Bufkin_2 ... O-106.html


I hope this helps.

I tried following your instructions but I'm confused by step 4. Where is JunoRouter.maxpat?

[oddeo]

Once you click the unfreeze button an Unfrozen folder is created. I think it is created in the same folder the .amxd file that is referenced is in. I could be wrong. It could be on your desktop. It may be placed somewhere different on Windows vs PC too. Once you figure out where the Unfrozen folder is being created you should be good.