How to start and stop the Looper from Max For Live?

[TomSwirly]

I'd like to start or stop a looper from Max For Live but I can't see a way to do it using the Live API.

I can assign that looper button to a keyboard command or a MIDI incoming command, sure - but I want my Max For Live program to start and stop the looper for me so I don't have to touch the keyboard

particularly since Live is so very unwilling to understand program changes, which are the only things my instrument will send to it -

but generally since I'm sequencing my whole show this way.

(Note that I'm doing this all through Javascript, so I can emit pretty well any command I like to the Live API

Thanks in advance!

[Tone Deft]

try this.
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=285

you can rip it apart and make it just for Looper. maybe I'll write one later.

Hoffman2k also has some devices that do a similar thing.

[TomSwirly]

I don't think the Looper start/stop button is a device parameter, unfortunately, or it'd be a one-liner from Javascript... or is there something I'm missing?

[TomSwirly]

I just tried your very nice little device and unfortunately it does not let you start and stop the looper...

[Tone Deft]

you're right, the 'big button' doesn't show up.

an oversight of the API?

[amounra93]

I'm still using superlooper because of this....in addition, u can manually adjust latency offset.

[S4racen]

Yeah i totally want this access as well....

Didn't get far with ipoke object in building my own that is....

Cheers
D

[jrs1]

I currently have a set up where I am controlling Live Looper start and stop using live object and java script.

There are some problems

From Javascript you can control the separate start, stop, record, play and over dub modes, but you cannot for example send one "bang" to the multi-button.

Secondly, when you control the live looper, using live.object or javascript, none of the quantise features work.

I wanted to have two loopers in parrallel, and even though I set the quantise settings in the second looper to follow the song tempo and start recording/overdubbing quantised, when you send the message from JS or live.object, Looper starts the action (rec/play) immediately, it does not quantise the instruction you just sent to it.

I didn't want to build a lot of quantisation settings into my m4l patch, so I went down a different route, and used IAC midi driver to loopback midi notes sent from M4L, back into live midi-map, to control the looper multi-button.

BUT, this still didn't work, somehow, somewhere (despite having cleaned all my M$L code) I was getting the "undo" command sent to the Looper, and had very unstable behaviour.

I can send examples, maybe you will have more luck, I am still working on a better solution.

email me - jsharp7 at gmail.com

john

[ring (Simon Slowik)]

Hi jrs1,

I'm controlling the Looper from within M4L by sending keystrokes that are mapped to the Looper's Buttons in ableton.

You can get my keystroke emulation external from maxobjects.com.

If you have further questions on how it works just contact me!

Hope this helps.

ring

[jrs1]

excellent, thanks a lot!

[ring (Simon Slowik)]

it's my pleasure!

[TomSwirly]

Thanks for two very useful responses to my question! I'm off to check out this great button-presser, which is exactly what I wanted... Thanks!