question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

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question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by 11olsen » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:05 pm

hello, can you help?
how do i define which parameters of my m4l intrument are controlled by the live remote input. you know - the blue hand is on the device. the order of the 8*8 parameters.

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by hoffman2k » Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:25 am

11olsen wrote:hello, can you help?
how do i define which parameters of my m4l intrument are controlled by the live remote input. you know - the blue hand is on the device. the order of the 8*8 parameters.
With the "Order" attribute of a parameter or in the Order column in the parameter inspector.
0 is Device On/Off, so start from 1.

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by 11olsen » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:50 pm

thanks!

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by Surreal » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:56 am

i have said it elsewhere, but i would LOVE to separate 'order' from this functionality. i had to use order to control loading...which means i can't give up the order i have.

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by broc » Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:43 am

+1

The combined functionality of 'order' and 'number' makes no sense.

Btw, is this documented somewhere?

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by pid » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:09 am

predictably, totally +1 here broc and all. this order combined thing is utterly ridiculous and counterintuitive to how max itself works. i long for many more columns in that "Parameters View" etc...

yes it is documented. really amusingly. my favourite entry is in the ref page for parameter view:

"
Properties
Name Type Description
Order int Order
"

that is all.
3dot... wrote: in short.. we live in disappointing times..

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by Surreal » Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:18 pm

it would be nice to have a parameter with 2 ints.

<page> <number>


pretty please :)
EDIT: aha! - http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=143688

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by swishniak » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:43 pm

ive been trying to add remote device (blue hand) to a patch using the object hierarchy but i cant get it to work. instead the first controller (of any remote device control surface) turns the device off, even though i started at one (and tried 2, etc).

its a pretty simple patch i wanted to make so i could automap at least 8 paramenters to a nord micro modular. . got the ccs going out. that part is working..

if anyone wants to take a look: http://www.mediafire.com/?37n71jmhrrpecix

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by amounra93 » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:53 am

+1 to the ordering thing...I kinda understand why it is such as it is, but we should definitely have different properties for init order and automation order.

instead the first controller (of any remote device control surface) turns the device off, even though i started at one (and tried 2, etc).
The first parameter of a device (parameter 0) is always on/off, no matter how you order the rest of them. Start from 1.
http://www.aumhaa.com for Monomod and other m4l goodies.

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by swishniak » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:04 am

amounra93 wrote:
instead the first controller (of any remote device control surface) turns the device off, even though i started at one (and tried 2, etc).
The first parameter of a device (parameter 0) is always on/off, no matter how you order the rest of them. Start from 1.
like i said, i started at 1

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by hoffman2k » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:45 am

swishniak wrote:ive been trying to add remote device (blue hand) to a patch using the object hierarchy but i cant get it to work. instead the first controller (of any remote device control surface) turns the device off, even though i started at one (and tried 2, etc).

its a pretty simple patch i wanted to make so i could automap at least 8 paramenters to a nord micro modular. . got the ccs going out. that part is working..

if anyone wants to take a look: http://www.mediafire.com/?37n71jmhrrpecix
That is a .adv file. Useless without the device.

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by swishniak » Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:49 pm

sorry about that :oops:

here it is (a week later)

http://www.mediafire.com/?jark9q1355c5wcr

hopefully someone can still give me a tip. thanks.

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by swishniak » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:03 pm

another thing; i realized something might be wrong with my automap/remote settings. my control surfaces (oxygen / trigger finger / nano kontrol) all automap to non-m4L macros in live, but when the blue hand is on a max device it is not recognized.. any ideas?

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Re: question: how do i define remote for a m4l instr?

Post by Surreal » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:11 pm

are your parameters 'automated and stored?'

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