MIDI assignment works not for me in opened subpatchers

bdhm · Post by **bdhm** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:08 am

hi,

some new bug:

I can not assign MIDI controller anymore in opened subpatchers of my MAXforLIVE PlugIns.
I can not delete them / or assign them new.

EDIT: "Workaround of clicking the track header that the device is contained within and then switching focus to the floating window works fine".

greetings,
bd

MacBook-Pro 2.5 Intel Gore 2 Duo.
MACOSX- 10.5.8.
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latest ABLETON LIVE,
latest MAX FOR LIVE ,
latest MAX/MSP,
TAPTOOLS-PRO 3.0.1. ,

olivierseb · Post by **olivierseb** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:19 am

bdhm wrote:hi,

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"open" does not mean in edit modus.

so what does it mean ?

olivier

bdhm · Post by **bdhm** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:34 pm

so what does it mean ?
olivier

hi°
if you integrate a patcher-object into your plugin.
and you double click the patcher object - an extra window is opening.

normally I could assign the MFL objects in this window to MIDI controllers.
but some how this doesn't work anymore.

I can only assign MFL objects in the normal LIVE PlugIn window.

greetings,
bd

olivierseb · Post by **olivierseb** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:54 pm

Ok I got it now,

well, I don't have any midi gear near me right now so I did a quick test with Keyboard mapping instead of Midi mapping,

it works even inside a [patcher]

please try this :

<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

olivier

pukunui · Post by **pukunui** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 3:17 am

MIDI assignment works fine for me in opened subpatchers

-A

bdhm · Post by **bdhm** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:22 am

hi,
thanks for your thoughts.

@ olivier: thanks for the test-patch.
but same result / problem.

sometimes I can assign the MIDI controllers in a subpatcher window and sometimes not.
I can never erase the assignments in the subpatcher window. but I can erase them in the MIDI-Mappings-menu.

I have soon a rehearsal. hopefully I can fined a solution.

greetings,
bd

olivierseb · Post by **olivierseb** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:03 pm

bdhm wrote:hi,
thanks for your thoughts.

@ olivier: thanks for the test-patch.
but same result / problem.

sometimes I can assign the MIDI controllers in a subpatcher window and sometimes not.
I can never erase the assignments in the subpatcher window. but I can erase them in the MIDI-Mappings-menu.

I have soon a rehearsal. hopefully I can fined a solution.

greetings,
bd

Sorry for the obvious question, but, and you are sure it is not because you use some Max GUI objects without [pattr] ? only Live GUI objects are "automation" ready AFAIR.

olivier

bdhm · Post by **bdhm** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:13 pm

olivierseb wrote:
bdhm wrote:hi,
thanks for your thoughts.

@ olivier: thanks for the test-patch.
but same result / problem.

sometimes I can assign the MIDI controllers in a subpatcher window and sometimes not.
I can never erase the assignments in the subpatcher window. but I can erase them in the MIDI-Mappings-menu.

I have soon a rehearsal. hopefully I can fined a solution.

greetings,
bd
Sorry for the obvious question, but, and you are sure it is not because you use some Max GUI objects without [pattr] ? only Live GUI objects are "automation" ready AFAIR.

olivier

hi,
thanks!
good point - but I am using Live GUI objects.

and if they are not in the subpatcher - everything works fine.

really strange ...

bd

olivierseb · Post by **olivierseb** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:06 pm

bdhm wrote:[
good point - but I am using Live GUI objects.

bd

ok, just out of curiosity, did you check their attributes ,"Parameter Visibility = Automated and Stored" ?
maybe something change the default value

oliver

bdhm · Post by **bdhm** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:26 pm

olivierseb wrote:
bdhm wrote:[
good point - but I am using Live GUI objects.

bd
ok, just out of curiosity, did you check their attributes ,"Parameter Visibility = Automated and Stored" ?
maybe something change the default value

oliver

hi°
I have checked: "Parameter Visibility = Automated and Stored"
so this is not the point.

thanks!
bd

[nis] · Post by **[nis]** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:05 am

Seems to be a problem of the window focus. I have sent you an email.

Best,
Nico

bdhm · Post by **bdhm** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:38 pm

hi,

ableton support can reproduce the bug.
it seems to be a problem of the window focus.

if I have two subpatchers open I can not assign easily MIDI controllers.
I have to click first the parameter, then the plugin track and then I can assign the controller.

so I wonder if I am the only one with this problem ?
anyone els ?

greetings,
bd

MacBook-Pro 2.5 Intel Gore 2 Duo.
MACOSX- 10.5.8.
latest ABLETON LIVE,
latest MAX FOR LIVE ,
latest MAX/MSP,
TAPTOOLS-PRO 3.0.,

Palmer Eldritch · Post by **Palmer Eldritch** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:41 pm

bdhm wrote: so I wonder if I am the only one with this problem ?

No, same problem here, but also with one subpatcher open.

cheers, palmer

bdhm · Post by **bdhm** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:12 am

Palmer Eldritch wrote:No, same problem here, but also with one subpatcher open.

cheers, palmer

hi,

thanks - good to know.

so it makes no difference to change my setup.

and yes, you are right: same problem with one open subpatcher.

greetings,
bd

S4racen · Post by **S4racen** » Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:39 am

And mine has just developed the problem!!

Slight variation in that i can't midi map live gui objects (that are automated and stored) within a floating window.... And the same in that i can't delete mappings made directly only within Live's browser....

Must have only happened since 8.2

EDIT: Workaround of clicking the track header that the device is contained within and then switching focus to the floating window works fine... Thank god i found this post otherwise i'd have been hours troubleshooting it!!

Cheers
D

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