Can anyone make a midi swing knob in m4L?

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kompletemail
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Can anyone make a midi swing knob in m4L?

Post by kompletemail » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:22 am

I would like to have a simple midi swing knobwith just a few swing options?

Kind of like the one in Maschine (hint).
One simple knob for any midi pattern .

broc
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Re: Can anyone make a midi swing knob in m4L?

Post by broc » Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:40 am

Here is a patch that I made some time ago.
Just copy it into an empty M4L midi effect template.

<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>

NOTE:
Due to latency of M4L devices in a chain the on/offbeat synchronization may not always work as intended.
But I've found that this problem can be solved by inserting a dummy MIDI Thru device in front of the swing device.
Last edited by broc on Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.

kompletemail
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Re: Can anyone make a midi swing knob in m4L?

Post by kompletemail » Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:55 am

do you have this as a patch?

not text.

stringtapper
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Re: Can anyone make a midi swing knob in m4L?

Post by stringtapper » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:40 am

Just copy the text and paste it into an open patcher window (the one that comes up when you press the Edit button on a new M4L device).
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broc
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Re: Can anyone make a midi swing knob in m4L?

Post by broc » Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:42 am

Also, delete the predefined midiin/midiout objects of the new device, otherwise the notes will be played twice.

As mentioned earlier, the timing of M4L devices in a chain is somewhat tricky.
So at this stage my patch should be considered rather experimental.

kompletemail
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Re: Can anyone make a midi swing knob in m4L?

Post by kompletemail » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:44 am

this looks cool and i put it into the editor and deleted the midi parts like you said, but now i am having trouble turning this into an actual patch. i have never made one before so i don't know how to get from the editor window to making it an actual M4L device. :(

broc
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Re: Can anyone make a midi swing knob in m4L?

Post by broc » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:29 am

After pasting in the editor go to View > Patcher Inspector and tick the box 'Open in Presentation'.

Then choose File > Save As.. and give it some name you like.

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Re: Can anyone make a midi swing knob in m4L?

Post by Khazul » Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:07 am

Hmm - I read this title as Can anyone make a swinging knob in m4l...
Nothing to see here - move along!

kompletemail
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Re: Can anyone make a midi swing knob in m4L?

Post by kompletemail » Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:50 am

nope still isn't working properly can't say that i know what i am doing, but after i saved it did give me an amxd file that i can drop onto a midi track but it just looks like it still in the patcher window in non presentation mode.??

o well ill just stick to maschine. they going to be supporting vst's real soon anyways. since ableton never fixed their issue with incoming midi from the plug in.

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