8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

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8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by pukunui » Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:20 pm

Hi Folks,

b4 is live and there is a corresponding new release of Max 5.1.8 beta (not required but recommended) from us.

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159960

There's a new Live pack included in the MaxMSP beta 5.1.8 installer. Manuel Poletti has written a bunch of new API devices and tools, which leverage the new features in this version. Please feel free to give it all a spin and let us know how you get on.

Cheers


Andrew
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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by hoffman2k » Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:30 pm

pukunui wrote:Hi Folks,

b4 is live and there is a corresponding new release of Max 5.1.8 beta (not required but recommended) from us.

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159960

There's a new Live pack in there. Manuel Poletti has written a bunch of new API devices and tools, which leverage the new features in this version. Please feel free to give it all a spin and let us know how you get on.

Cheers


Andrew
Damn, somebody has been busy 8O
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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by pid » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:34 pm

THANK

YOU

ANDREW

AND

MANUEL

p.s. - love the new storage slotname feature of preset+pattrstorage!)
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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by Michael Hatsis » Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:44 pm

8O

There's some lovely stuff in there! Thanks!

MIchael

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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by S4racen » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:27 pm

Ooh let me at it!

Cheers
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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by pid » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:59 pm

the api stuff is very cool. the imagination and craft. the sends devices are particularly awesome. some of the other things i have been building myself, just not as well. most of all though, thankyou jeremy bernstein for that awesome javascript M4L.chooser.js. saves me a lot of local headaches trying to do the same badly. really solid stuff. thanks again...
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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by crystalmsc » Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:26 am

pukunui wrote:There's a new Live pack included in the MaxMSP beta 5.1.8 installer. Manuel Poletti has written a bunch of new API devices and tools, which leverage the new features in this version.
Very interesting! I'm thinking to get into M4L and this is the type of treatment that I really love to see. Mind to share a bit more details about the new devices, tools and new features? Thanks.
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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by Valiumdupeuple » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:09 am

Huge!!!!
This night I was finishing a patch that allows to record automation in session view... So many nice ways to clean/enhance it with those new API stuffs now.
Great work!!
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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by pepezabala » Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:57 am

Valiumdupeuple wrote:Huge!!!!
This night I was finishing a patch that allows to record automation in session view...
really? show us ...

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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by Valiumdupeuple » Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:21 am

Yes, really.
This one is design for one specific programm on my controller, but you can easily customize it for yours by dealing with the cc values that enter the gate (there's the "-11" because I need numbers from 1 to 8 and my knobs start at cc12).
This one is for midi track only; especially because it only populate devices that are on the same track.
I have one that works for both midi and audio tracks; i.e the patch populate devices from every tracks. Anyway, you still need a midi track to record automation on audio channels, as they don't handle midi enveloppe. But it works great if you group the audio(s) track with the midi one where the patch is. That way, by launching the recording with the group track play button, your audio and midi clips are synchronize.

You can midi map the ovr. Just turn it on to add/modify the automation.
Here's the midi track only patch. I'm polishing the other patch, that way I'll just need one for everything. I'm also integrating the lh_midiin, which makes things easier.



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(There's a bpatcher with a lightly customised abstraction, so I've post the frozen device here, just in case there's a problem with this code...
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=577 )

I've also did a "universal" patch, i.e for every midi controllers. It's using a integrated midi learn system. I haven't test it since a long time, but I think it works. Otherwise it's still good thing to learn.
It's posted here: http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=159475

Anyway, these new API stuffs have everything to do it. For the moment I think I'll integrate the "learn parameter by clicking it" thing, and also the range control.

Jul

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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by banned » Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:53 pm

Much thanks to Manuel Poletti for those new API devices and tools. Very useful!

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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by Surreal » Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:40 pm

Are the new devices marked in anyway as new or anything? I don't poke around the abstractions too often, so I have a hard time telling.

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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by SuslovNikolay » Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:17 am

Hello,
First of all, thanks for so awesome work!

After installing the latest betas (M4L and Live), there are the new lesson's folders appeared.
But, I couldn't find there any files to try (amxd), just an empty folders.. (14-API Starter Lessons, 15-API .. till 18-API)
Just 19-API is ok!

Any insights?

Best regards,
Nikolay

SuslovNikolay
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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by SuslovNikolay » Sat Mar 05, 2011 9:16 am

Oh!
Just found all the API lesson's devices in Set's folder (starting with API 01 to API 06 numbering).

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Nikolay

pid
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Re: 8.2.2 b4 and new Live pack content

Post by pid » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:49 am

the same simple rules still apply:

after installing the NEW beta 8.2.2b4, you must install the NEW beta 5.1.8 of Max (not the old beta 5.1.8 of max), as stated at the top of this thread.

THEN, AFTER you have done this, launch your new live and wait a moment as the cycling 74 .alp is updated to your live prefs. then, in your live set, in the browser on the left, go to max audio effect > api tools folder. there are many many new devices. if you open them and poke around you will find there are many new abstractions and a new javascript. these all reside (as usual) in the max app folder /patches/m4l-pathces/LiveAPI resources/tools.

hth.
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