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B-Keeper max for live project

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:11 pm
by Venetian
Info here:

http://cycling74.com/project/b-keeper/

synchronises Live to live drums.

requires the java externals fro the webiste: www.b-keeper.org

and Miller Puckette's bonk~ object
(from here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html)

Hope you like it!

Andrew

Re: B-Keeper max for live project

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:07 pm
by ring (Simon Slowik)
Nice!

I've been researching that topic for years, too.
I had a working M4L-deivce for drums like yours, but I cancelled it because I found it not universal enough. As I did a lot of improvised music I couldn't know what beat or time the drummer would play. So for example it wouldn't work if he'd play just a subtile brush swish on the snare or a shaker.
But for a steady beat AND tempo it should work, yes. In the demo video you're always looking for the back beat, don't you?! I guess in a certain timing window?!

Some month ago I made a device for harmonic instruments as I'm a piano player. I had some very good results, because I went a completely different way than before... You can see a short dem here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAtEehVU7Dc

Congratulations to your device!

Simon

Re: B-Keeper max for live project

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:49 pm
by Venetian
Yes, it looks for events on the main beats of the bar - one, two, three and four, adapting the window size to suit the playing style that's being observed. Hopefully with a good balance between response and stability!

thanks for the video link. Looks cool.

Re: B-Keeper max for live project

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:47 am
by dorsch
ring wrote:Nice!

I've been researching that topic for years, too.
I had a working M4L-deivce for drums like yours, but I cancelled it because I found it not universal enough. As I did a lot of improvised music I couldn't know what beat or time the drummer would play. So for example it wouldn't work if he'd play just a subtile brush swish on the snare or a shaker.
But for a steady beat AND tempo it should work, yes. In the demo video you're always looking for the back beat, don't you?! I guess in a certain timing window?!

Some month ago I made a device for harmonic instruments as I'm a piano player. I had some very good results, because I went a completely different way than before... You can see a short dem here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAtEehVU7Dc

Congratulations to your device!

Simon
that sounds very nice.
simon, would you like to share your device?

regards
dorsch

Re: B-Keeper max for live project

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:35 pm
by ring (Simon Slowik)
hey dorsch!

I do share a lot of devices that I've made.
But this one is really too much work to simply share it and the concept is very unique . I hope you understand that.

I suggested ableton to make an integrated audio effect from that which would enable you to let ableton live follow any live played music.
So far they didn't react. Gently force them to do, maybe it becomes reality...

Cheers,
Simon

Re: B-Keeper max for live project

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:53 pm
by dorsch
dear simon,

that is something i truly understand.
good idea, to "persuade" berlin to to what we need :)

regards
dorsch

Re: B-Keeper max for live project

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:23 pm
by ring (Simon Slowik)
dorsch wrote:dear simon,

that is something i truly understand.
good idea, to "persuade" berlin to to what we need :)

regards
dorsch
Oh, it's not just that I requested a feature. I offer to work together on a universal solution bringing in all my knowledge. As I said, my version is made with M4L. But to work properly under any circumstances it would need to be integrated more deeply into the DAW.

So if you're interested in something like that, write them an email or post it here... :wink:

new feature request

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:07 am
by dorsch

Re: B-Keeper max for live project

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:17 am
by ring (Simon Slowik)
:wink: