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 Post subject: ganz graf device modification tips needed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:59 am 

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i've used this m4l device for visuals and love it.

being new go editing max4l devices, i need assistance:
currently the patch's visual coordinates, um, the xy shifting of perspective
only occurs when the mouse hovers over it and shifts it around..
i would like to modify the patch so that there's a macro/dial/knob to control this,
and not the mouseover.

can anyone help with this.
here's the device:
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/devic ... -graf-live

in action: http://vimeo.com/61580250

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 Post subject: Re: ganz graf device modification tips needed
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:53 pm 

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would truly appreciate any m4l device editing input here...
don't know if its a simple live dial to add or modify.
can't seem to figure it out, ,need it for a show this coming weekend!

basically want to control the 3d coordinates of the visuals by not using
the mousepad mouseOver funtion or whathaveyou..not sure what its called in m4l.,
but instead use liveDials so i can macromap them to bcr2000.

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 Post subject: Re: ganz graf device modification tips needed PLEASE!!!!
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:35 pm 

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so, a friend told me its about adding a live dial to control "world transform" or "projection matrix".
like i stated, its probably simple, i just can't seem to figure it out.
i investigated every reference for the patch in the m4l device editor.
but i just can't wrap my head around changing the mouseover control to live macro/dial control....
thoughts anyone..is there anybody out there

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 Post subject: Re: ganz graf device modification tips needed
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:41 pm 

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had a quick try the other day. For some reason it didn't work. not sure i'll have the time these days.
Look into the 'p mouse' this is where the X and Y values are displayed.

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 Post subject: Re: ganz graf device modification tips needed
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:45 pm 

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chapelier fou wrote:
had a quick try the other day. For some reason it didn't work. not sure i'll have the time these days.
Look into the 'p mouse' this is where the X and Y values are displayed.


oh my a reponse! thanks for checkin in. will look into that.
so you're suggesting the "p mouse" can be replace with a couple live dial/macro to control the 3d position / plane / xy rotation ?

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 Post subject: Re: ganz graf device modification tips needed
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:51 pm 

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try this (copy the whole text underneath and paste it into an empty patcher, then save it)



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 Post subject: Re: ganz graf device modification tips needed
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:57 pm 

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effin sweet!! working ! weird tho, when saving as a m4l device it crashed live9 and made max6 unrepsonsive every time.
then when i reopened live its fine. just need to align the dials a wee bit.

what's the orange box click for ?

and thanks soooo much for this edit. i didn't realize it was a simple thing.
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Happy to help !
i put the orange box to emulate the mouse click (since it seemed to be used in the patch), but i couldn't figure out if it had an effect or not. I put it just in case. Tell me if there is anything wrong.
Have fun !
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cool....indeed very cool.
testing and running it for 1 hour straight (the length of my set)

another curiousity. i duplicated the amxd file in Finder, renamed it,
and loaded 2 instances, although one didn't display its visuals, it was actually superimposed
on the other. weird and cool, but crashed live.

the thought of projecting multiple instances is awesome. even just 2, if possible...
ie, one for the percussive/beats and one instance for synths/atmospherics..

its working solid right now!

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It may have conflicts with send and receive objects with the same name when loading two instances. Which could lead to a crash.
need to have a look. But once again, not sure to have time for this !

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its cool...
you helped me transform my set, having real time controls over the simplest things makes a world of difference!

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i posted a mod of this with live.* interface objects so you can save presets in the Live browser.

http://www.maxforlive.com/library/devic ... graf-mod-x

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Great device synnack. Thank you :)

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I tried to record the output of Ganz Graf. I thought I could use the jit.record object but can't figure out where to connect it.

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I'm very interested in recording the output as well. I think there's something posted in the comments on the download page of one of the mods but I haven't been back to check it out yet.

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