Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

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moog303
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Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by moog303 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:27 pm

Hi,

I'm posting this question in the M4L forum as I think using M4L would be the best way to achieve this.
Despite a lot of google search I still haven't found a simple device that does that and I can not believe it has not been done yet.

What I am looking for is a midi effect that simulates the behavior of a step sequencer like the one on the sh101.
You hit record, you enter a sequence note by note using the keys of your midi keyboard.
You hit stop.
Then when you press a key of your keyboard it automatically plays the sequence and transposes it depending on the midi note.
Would be nice if:
  • It could be inserted as a midi effect before the instrument (rather than a different midi track).
    It would let cc pass thru (so that you can record filter and so on while running the sequence)
    It has a gate and tie time option
Does this exist?
This is feasible with monosequencer but it's a pain to use as you have to switch continuously between record pitch mode and play pattern mode...

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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by moog303 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:48 am

nobody?

chapelier fou
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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by chapelier fou » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:10 am

did you check on maxforlive.com ? i would be surprised if this wouldn't have been done before.
In the other case, i may give it a try !
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moog303
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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by moog303 » Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:42 pm

Yes I did (maybe not enough).
Just can't imagine it is not simple to find with a google search as to me it looks so obvious this is a must have.
Must be simple to programm as well for someone who knows M4L (not my case)

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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by Machinate » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:26 pm

I don't think it exists.

Good thing is that you can build it.
Storing and recalling notes from a coll object is simple, bordering on trivial.
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moog303
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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by moog303 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:55 pm

Problem is I don't know how to do it and I am not sure I'll have the time to learn M4L just for that.
But if an experienced M4L programmer would like to do it that would be great and I am sure, very popular!

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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:45 pm

Yeah why not !
just too busy these days
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moog303
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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by moog303 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:19 am

Hey! Thanks.
That would be great :)
Let me know if you decide to do it, I have some ideas ;)

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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by justin » Wed Dec 04, 2013 11:11 am

I was looking for a similar thing a while back, and i may end up coding something in max... but along the way i came across this and i decided to sack off coding for soldering: http://mutable-instruments.net/anushri

this groove box really is a lot of fun, although it doesn't quite have the same functionality / sound of the sh101. it also doubles up nicely as a midi to CV converter.

on the plugin side you should check out Lush101: http://www.d16.pl/lush-101
this is more faithful to the original hardware, but you cant extract the midi from the sequencer afaik.

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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by moog303 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:49 pm

There is the midipal from mutable instruments but it's a hardware and most of what it does it covered by Live (arp, chord, scale, etc.)

I have demoed the lush 101 and yes the seq part is nice but I still prefer a M4L dedicated device.


I see the M4L device with 3 buttons:
Record (on/off)
tie
rest

An V2 could add:
signature: 1/4, 1/8, 1/16 etc.
slide/accent
pattern length
pattern store & recall

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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by chapelier fou » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:16 pm

I made this for a start. Ties doesn't work at the moment. Open in Presentation please
To do : Play quantize. Add ties. Anything else ?


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chapelier fou
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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by chapelier fou » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:31 pm

More fun with transpose !


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jessemiller
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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by jessemiller » Thu Dec 12, 2013 3:45 am

You could probably do this without Max. Use one channel to record and loop midi and use the Midi pitch effect to change the key.

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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by chapelier fou » Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:07 am

not as fun !
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moog303
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Re: Step sequencer similar to sh101, pro-one etc.

Post by moog303 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:22 pm

Thanks chapelier fou but how to download the M4L device? I just see code :(
Like your music by the way!


@jessemiller: main problem is that the step sequencer in live does not trigger the next step automatically and yes, it would no be just as fun :(

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