Dub Machines

[re:dream]

Hmmm seriously contemplating acquiring this. But I am a bit worried about all the posts I see about CPU issues.

I have a fairly recent Mac Mini, 2.3 Ghz i7, 8 meg of ram.

Will I suffer?

Well, with CPU spikes, I mean?

[Pitch Black]

Running on 4y/o i5 here - see below - and these did make Live quite sluggish on one big project when I came to mixdown (10-20 tracks open to them). That said, that was 3-4 months ago so I'm not sure what updates might have done since then, perhaps I'd think twice about using in a live performance, but they sound INCREDIBLE so well worth the price of admission I reckon. Once you hear them on a dub style sidestick you go "Yup... That's the sound."

[re:dream]

Thank you. That's a strong recommendation.

[Valiumdupeuple]

It should run seamlessly on your machine re:dream.

[re:dream]

aaaand it does. ooh tastiness...

[Stromkraft]

Will I suffer?
Well, with CPU spikes, I mean?

If you do, then it's worth it. I simply print my returns at 4x, playing back at 1x. My machine is way slower than yours, however.

[Stromkraft]

I've since moved up just a couple of generations with the CPU and I have no issues running multiple Magnetic instances at 4x. Don't use too old gear is probably the lesson here.

[maky355]

Hi. After last update (9.5) and last M4L i noticed Magnetic and Diffuse have terrible loading time for me (Win10). I have i7 haswell, everything run super smooth but when i load Magnetic it takes about 10 sec to load. I think it wasn't like that at all - before. I load fine and works fine it just takes a lot. Not even Kontakt several gigabyte library is loading that long...

Unloading also seems quite long (several seconds)...

I am thinking about totally abandon using m4l devices(i have had enough of weird nonsense regarding m4l stability issues) in Live unless M4l improve loading times. Still Magnetic is big part of my production and i wouldn't like to work without this device.


Any advice?

[[jur]]

Do some push-ups while it loads

[maky355]

Do some push-ups while it loads

Come on not funny

Beside that i am already stong enough because of early morning push ups

[Stromkraft]

I have i7 haswell, everything run super smooth but when i load Magnetic it takes about 10 sec to load. I think it wasn't like that at all - before.

Core2Duo takes the same time in 9.5 as in 9.2.3 on OS X 10.9. I'm still on Max 6.1.10 though.

[braduro]

I'm on a Summer 2012 Macbook Pro. These devices are luscious. Nonetheless I make a distinction between things I'll load into a session for producing a track (studio) vs signal processing in a live setting (performance). These devices clearly fall in the studio category for me.

[maky355]

I have i7 haswell, everything run super smooth but when i load Magnetic it takes about 10 sec to load. I think it wasn't like that at all - before.

Core2Duo takes the same time in 9.5 as in 9.2.3 on OS X 10.9. I'm still on Max 6.1.10 though.

Ok but i am under impression that it wasn't like that before? That's wha i said that i am under impression it's because 9.5 update?


Note: i am not debating Dub machines processing quality. Clearly these are best of the best tape delays one can find.

But seeing sometimes more then 10 sec of load is making me nervous.

I mean my Adobe Photoshop load under 5 sec. 3D Studio max load faster. Even whole ableton load under 5 sec. Yet for some strange reason one delay plugin take three or four times longer to initiate.

[Stromkraft]

But seeing sometimes more then 10 sec of load is making me nervous.

I mean my Adobe Photoshop load under 5 sec. 3D Studio max load faster. Even whole ableton load under 5 sec. Yet for some strange reason one delay plugin take three or four times longer to initiate.

Well, my results indicate it takes the same time in an older machine at least. Live is slow to load things from time to time for, to me unknown, reasons. It could be due to memory allocation or decompression of certain files, but that we don't know for sure seems to be the reality. With Max devices such as Dub Machines, the first device initializes Max and that probably takes some time.

As I say in this other thread my MacBook Pro starts up in 10 seconds and loading a Live project can typically take more than a minute for some of us: How fast do your Live sets load?. 32 votes so far.

[stkr]

hi maky355.

stkr from surreal machines here. sorry it took me a while to see your posts.

so, that is not cool about your longer load times. sorry for your troubles.

it is strange. we test everything in betas before full releases, and we have not had these issues with 9.5, but i could be mistaken . i would not get nervous about your long load times, so long as everything still works once loaded. but it is lame, and i would like to help fix this for you.

we recently released an update (about a month ago) which you can get by simply redownloading the pack from your packs page and reinstalling the pack.

please email me at support ( support@surrealmachines.com ) with the following infos:

- what exact os ? (there may be some windows 10 issues)
- 32 or 64 live?
- what version of max?

remember - 'version of max' also requires you look at your ableton live prefs and check in the file/folder tab that live is pointed to your correct max version.

let me know in support,
all the best,
stkr .