[live.thisdevice] bangs before control_surfaces are created

[patrickstinson]

I am finding that the [live.thisdevice] sends a bang before the control surfaces are initialized in the Live application if the max patch is stored in a patch that is loaded immediately when open the Live app. For example when Live is not running, and then you double click on a project file in Finder (or explorer probably, too).

Is this known behavior, and has anyone worked around it? One thought is if [getcount control_surfaces] returns 0, then to poll once or twice more every second or so until at least one control surface is detected. This could work since I design all my sub-patches to be initialized with a bang from a single [live.thisdevice].

Thoughts? Thanks!

[JoshG567]

If I'm not mistaken that's one of the recent bugfixes in the latest 9.1.5 beta.

[patrickstinson]

Hmm, the change note is :

The [live.thisdevice] Max for Live object would no longer send a bang message out its first outlet when adding/removing control surface scripts in the Live preferences.

The description is a little odd. I don't think the intended behavior of [live.thisdevice] is to send a bang out it's first outlet when a control surface script is added. Although if that is in fact the case then it would solve my reported problem if the initial device loaded bang was delayed until all the control surfaces are loaded.

In the meantime I added a delayed re-try that typically finally finds them about 500ms after [live.thisdevice] sends it's bang. So long as I use this to init my patch everything is fine. Here is the discovery code:

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[S4racen]

i agree with your findings, thats always been the way

Cheers
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