Properloop v1.0

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jonbenderr
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Properloop v1.0

Post by jonbenderr » Sun Aug 09, 2015 3:25 pm

A loop compositing system for max for live.

More information and videos can be found at the following link:

http://shiftedradio.com/m4l/

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Re: Properloop v1.0

Post by abletoff » Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:24 pm

Great device!
I loved the tune (the loop) you're using, it seems like someone drumming in hell and a lot of devils screaming when the fx come up, awesome!
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Re: Properloop v1.0

Post by jonbenderr » Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:24 am

All the loops I use in the demo videos are actually from sample packs released by Krumble the Discobreaker.

You can get them here...

https://krumblethediscobreaker.bandcamp.com/music

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Re: Properloop v1.0

Post by jonbenderr » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:35 am

For those who have yet to upgrade to max 7 for various reasons, purchase and download of Properloop now comes with a copy that functions identically in Max 6. Minus the new timestretching available in max 7. However, loops still automatically sync to tempo.

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Re: Properloop v1.0

Post by Mehalic » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:45 pm

Awesome idea, similar to Ultraloop from Twisted Tools. One thing that would make this even better would be a device for PUSH or APC40 to control the plugin :) Not sure how hard that would be to code, don't think terribly hard.

Think I'll have a look at this device, kool concept.
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Re: Properloop v1.0

Post by jonbenderr » Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:28 pm

Hi! Thanks for the interest. Getting ready to release an update soon which is going to make a lot of performance improvements and address a couple user requests.

It is definitely meant to be a simple alternative to Ultraloop for those who either don't want to spend the money or don't have the money for Reaktor.

As far as controller support, I've dabbled in that area a bit. Not very well versed with it so unless someone steps up with it, you may not see it.

To be truthful, it can be a bit system heavy so I don't know if I would use it live, especially once you start to enable time stretching on any of the loops. Similar plugins tend to be pretty heavy as well.

Some quick numbers off the top of my head in regards to cpu usage, with all loops loaded and transport running, you end up with about 20% cpu usage. Start enabling lots of effects and you might see 40%. Enable time stretching and you start moving past 50%. (All these numbers come from my self built pc with an i5 4670k processor and 8gb ram. So I for sure don't have the fastest system out there.)

As a design tool though I feel it's pretty useful. By creating midi clips to trigger sequences, you can actually freeze the track and bounce the sequences/mixed audio. You could potentially build an original loop library rather quickly.

Maybe a slimmed down version for live performance and controllerists is in the future?

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Re: Properloop v1.0

Post by Mehalic » Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:45 pm

Thanks for the quick reply! Definitely see myself using this for sound design, I'm just on a kick right now try and do everything from my controllers, so that's where that question came from. I've looked briefly at trying, but my time is limited and I'd rather focus on music making!

It would be great if you could dynamically load loops on the fly for live performance - jam with your clip, record into properloop, rinse, repeat and mangle! I'll let you know what my experience is like after I spend some time with it.

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Re: Properloop v1.0

Post by jonbenderr » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:54 pm

Current Properloop users, please check your email as I have just sent out updated copies of both the Max 7 and Max 6 versions.

To get an overview of the update, watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrFzHat2m40

For anyone interested in purchasing, all info is available here...

http://www.shiftedradio.com/m4l
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Re: Properloop v1.0

Post by koranek » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:12 pm

The update is running well, and fixes the clipping noise when rapidly switching between segments of loops.

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Re: Properloop v1.0

Post by jonbenderr » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:37 pm

Excellent! Thanks for the feedback!

It's been pretty quiet so I was hoping no news was good news!

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Re: Properloop v1.0

Post by Mehalic » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:22 pm

I'll give the new version a run this week and will let you know how it goes. Cheers.
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Re: Properloop v1.0

Post by jonbenderr » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:55 am

https://ask.audio/articles/review-shift ... properloop

Big thanks to the Ask Audio guys for this very nice review.

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Re: Properloop v1.0

Post by jonbenderr » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:01 am

Current users, check your email. Just sent out a small update.

Updates for both Max 6 and 7:
-Updated the delay effect's sync to more closely resemble a traditional sync delay.
-Updated the reverb effect which is now MUCH better quality.

Bugfix for Max 7 version:
-Sequences 10 and 16 would not initialize properly from default patch.

Potential new users, you can now purchase through Sellify at the following link:
https://sellfy.com/p/M1WR/

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