While working on some devices for a workshop about max for live, I stumbled upon this strange behavior, as illustrated in my video screen capture : if I close the gate from the 'LFO' to the live.numbox sent to control the parameter on one track, I can see the raw output (that is the right output) flickering, as if it still sent some values) I can't use the live.dial with the mouse. Is that normal or a bug ? If I take the patchcord out from the live.numbox input, everything works as intended...
Link to video : http://www.mediafire.com/watch/afc2shno ... enFlow.mp4
Closed [gate~] not blocking flow ?
Closed [gate~] not blocking flow ?
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Re: Closed [gate~] not blocking flow ?
If you could post a simple patch where this is demonstrated, it would be most helpful.
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Re: Closed [gate~] not blocking flow ?
Gate~ outputs a 0 signal even when closed. Snapshot~ continuously processes as well.
I think the only way to truly stop signal processing is through use of poly~ and mute thispoly~. There are also some deprecated objects that can still be used.
You could always just put a regular max gate after the snapshot and open close that with the same toggle used for the signal gate~.
I think the only way to truly stop signal processing is through use of poly~ and mute thispoly~. There are also some deprecated objects that can still be used.
You could always just put a regular max gate after the snapshot and open close that with the same toggle used for the signal gate~.
Re: Closed [gate~] not blocking flow ?
@Kleine : there you are...
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The explanation by Roomkillah explains it all : I had never noticed gate~ outputs continuously a 0 value when closed. I had added a snapshot~ to go into max realm because I thought that could free the observed parameter when no value would be sent, so it seems a simple gate after the snapshot~ is the way to go.
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</code></pre>
The explanation by Roomkillah explains it all : I had never noticed gate~ outputs continuously a 0 value when closed. I had added a snapshot~ to go into max realm because I thought that could free the observed parameter when no value would be sent, so it seems a simple gate after the snapshot~ is the way to go.
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Band : https://elastocat.org/
Madlab sound unit / objects, guitar, electronics / end_of_transmission
MBP M1 Pro 2021 - 16 Go RAM - Monterey 12.6.3
MBP 2.5 Ghz I7 16 Go SSD OSX 10.14
iPad + Mira+ TouchOsc
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Band : https://elastocat.org/
Madlab sound unit / objects, guitar, electronics / end_of_transmission
Re: Closed [gate~] not blocking flow ?
Right. Make sure to also set live.dials parameter visibility to hidden when you modulate it. (to avoid bloating the undo history…)
Re: Closed [gate~] not blocking flow ?
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