original max for live midi devices that came with live

[graphixsounds]

Hi,

I'm not sure if im asking the right question here. I have "max for live essentials" v1 and v2, but I remember when owning max for live a lot of midi utility plugins came with Live as well as some really interesting midi delays that would cluster similar to the GRM Tools Delay plugin. I can't seem to find any of these older built in max for live midi instruments in 9.5. Does anyone know wtf I'm talking about here? Any insight into the matter would be very appreciated

thanks

[kleine]

Two places come to mind:

https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/max-li ... x_for_live

or

https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/max-li ... x_for_live

Best,
Christian

[graphixsounds]

it was building tools! thanks