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 Post subject: Saving multiple bpatcher states?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:20 am 

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Not sure if this is possible with bpatcher as a separate file, but embedding the bpatcher doesn't seem to make any difference either!

I've made a path for remote controlling Live tracks with MIDI. It works fine, but I now want to duplicate it for 20 tracks, AND save the name of the track that it's automating. The mappings are persistent between saves, but none of the track names get saved. I'm sure this should be simple, but I can't get any combination of pattr's to do the trick! Can you advise on a simple way to save text / states in a patch? Will using a bpatcher as a file work (seems to be more performant) or will I have to embed?

Contents of bpatcher below (I'm just duplicating this loads in the main patch)

Code:
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 Post subject: Re: Saving multiple bpatcher states?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 12:28 pm 

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(Problem solved with 'set' -> Textedit, parameter mode enable=ON :D )

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 Post subject: Re: Saving multiple bpatcher states?
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In the past, I used poly~ to load multiple instances of bpatcher. And parameter mode worked within those patches.
Be sure to turn off "Persistent Mapping" on every instance of live.xxx that doesn't require it. (It's on by default)
Otherwise you'll run into issues by just selecting tracks. I had a quick look at your bpatcher and I'm guessing your undo history gets between 12 and 25 entries per bpatcher each time you select a track.


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 Post subject: Re: Saving multiple bpatcher states?
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hoffman2k wrote:
In the past, I used poly~ to load multiple instances of bpatcher. And parameter mode worked within those patches.
Be sure to turn off "Persistent Mapping" on every instance of live.xxx that doesn't require it. (It's on by default)
Otherwise you'll run into issues by just selecting tracks. I had a quick look at your bpatcher and I'm guessing your undo history gets between 12 and 25 entries per bpatcher each time you select a track.


Thanks Hoffmann, interesting. With this setup, I'm only planning to do the track selection once - when I set up the live set (I won't be doing any track selection on-stage, so to speak).

So I'm hoping the track selection / mapping will be stable enough that I can do it once and save it in set for all future use - All snapshots etc. will be saved in Reaktor and sent over by MIDI. But I guess it might be worth turning off persistent mapping on those live.dials? I don't need to save their number-settings, these will be sent by Reaktor.

(Couldn't actually see a 'persistent mapping' for the live.dials, but I set 'Parameter Visibility' to 'Hidden' which will hopefully do the same thing?)

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 Post subject: Re: Saving multiple bpatcher states?
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Persistent mapping is a setting in live.object & live.remote.
Setting the dials to hidden will prevent those from adding to the undo history too. But you lose MIDI Mapping in that case.


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