A sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices ?

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vanhaze
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A sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices ?

Post by vanhaze » Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:03 am

Is it maybe an idea to create a sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices in L10 ?
I mean those M4L's from the popular M4L device providers like:

- audiomodern
- max4cats
- isotonik
- and even Ableton's own native M4L Devices ..

Even maybe better would be that these companies release an official statement about this subject, here on the forum. :!:
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Re: A sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices ?

Post by scheffkoch » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:13 am

...why don't you just start and tell us your observations?...
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Re: A sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices ?

Post by vanhaze » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:28 am

I don't own any devices from these companies but i am interested in alot of them for purchase.

So, now being on Live 10, curious about if they will work or not.
I assume i am not the only L10 user wanting to know this.
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Re: A sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices ?

Post by hoffman2k » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:17 am

Nothing changed to break those devices.
And nothing got fixed that was already broken before. It just all loads faster.
Also, most people that make these devices have been testing L10 for a long time.

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Re: A sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices ?

Post by m:o » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:27 am

I can confirm, that when using this CTRLR Editor for an Oberheim Matrix 1000 -> http://ctrlr.org/matrix-6/ on a windows 7 machine, M4L won`work correct anymore (stock devices + 3rd party)
No Sound, No Midi, GUI Freezes.

Developer is contacted about this issue.
Could be, that other editors built with the (great) CTRLR Software causes issues in the M4L system too..
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Re: A sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices ?

Post by stringtapper » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:13 pm

hoffman2k wrote:Nothing changed to break those devices.
Do we know for sure that nothing has changed in Max 8 that could cause issues though?

I wouldn't expect it, because backwards compatibility at all costs is sort of a mantra for Cycling.
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Re: A sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices ?

Post by scheffkoch » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:01 pm

...isotonik's push2xl scripts doesn't seem to work here...
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Re: A sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices ?

Post by hoffman2k » Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:07 pm

No, not for sure. Since we didn't get a changelog.
Besides a new logo, the faster loading and the live.banks object... I don't think much changed in the Max 8 build we got. Its Max 7 in a new coat.
Even C74 states that the MFL build has a few under-the-hood changes and not much more. The "real" Max 8 is still yet to come in Q2.
The question of what is broken or not will be need to asked again when we get the actual big update.
Not sure why something like the CTRLR app/vst would break stuff, but the errors in the Max window would probably provide a pretty decent clue.
As for scripts, Darren stated he'll do the needed updates when things were finalised. He'll likely confirm this in 3...2...1... ;)

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Re: A sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices ?

Post by S4racen » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:42 pm

scheffkoch wrote:...isotonik's push2xl scripts doesn't seem to work here...
Which are not MaxforLive, and only supporting Live 9....

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Re: A sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices ?

Post by S4racen » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:43 pm

hoffman2k wrote:No, not for sure. Since we didn't get a changelog.
Besides a new logo, the faster loading and the live.banks object... I don't think much changed in the Max 8 build we got. Its Max 7 in a new coat.
Even C74 states that the MFL build has a few under-the-hood changes and not much more. The "real" Max 8 is still yet to come in Q2.
The question of what is broken or not will be need to asked again when we get the actual big update.
Not sure why something like the CTRLR app/vst would break stuff, but the errors in the Max window would probably provide a pretty decent clue.
As for scripts, Darren stated he'll do the needed updates when things were finalised. He'll likely confirm this in 3...2...1... ;)

https://cycling74.com/products/new-max-version-8
Official quote... They'll be ready when.... PrEditor 2 is released.....

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Re: A sticky for working/(currently)non-working M4L Devices ?

Post by jonbenderr » Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:19 am

I have a bunch of weird and half-assed utilities and controller devices that seem to work just as well in 10 as they did in 9.

Take that for what it is worth. :D

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