REAL TIME Quantizer

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dragon131313
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REAL TIME Quantizer

Post by dragon131313 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:52 pm

Hi!

I would like know if there is something like a quantizer for Ableton that can be used live. (for concerts)

I found one but it doesn t work for me. It does a good job quantizing the notes that I play a little "ahead", but with the notes that are a little "later", it will just move them to the next mark. Which means that if I play a note a milisecond later, I will sound on the next mark. If I set 1/8, it will sound on the next quaver.

I attached a picture so you understand.
https://ibb.co/wdwF0DQ

My question is: is there a quantizer for live performances that you recommend and that don´t have this problem?

It would be ideal that if I play a note a little later, It just leaves that note like that since it belongs to the previous mark, not the following one.

I will really appreciate any recomendation.

Thanks.

dataf1ow
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Re: REAL TIME Quantizer

Post by dataf1ow » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:46 pm

Well you can't really quantize into the past, unless time travel is a new feature in Max 8 ;). You can't quantize a note back in time, for example if you hit a note 1/32nd not behind the beat, you can't place that note hit on the intended beat because it has already passed.

Though, you could put in some sort of threshold setting, where if you are within a defined time from the most recent quantization event, you don't move the note back. This would prevent notes that are really close to the intended beat not be shifted an entire quantization value back. Probably a relatively simple modification.

dragon131313
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Re: REAL TIME Quantizer

Post by dragon131313 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:03 pm

dataf1ow wrote:Well you can't really quantize into the past, unless time travel is a new feature in Max 8 ;). You can't quantize a note back in time, for example if you hit a note 1/32nd not behind the beat, you can't place that note hit on the intended beat because it has already passed.

Though, you could put in some sort of threshold setting, where if you are within a defined time from the most recent quantization event, you don't move the note back. This would prevent notes that are really close to the intended beat not be shifted an entire quantization value back. Probably a relatively simple modification.
Do you think you can do it for me?

I'll be your number one fan.

Do you?

doubleUG
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Re: REAL TIME Quantizer

Post by doubleUG » Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:20 pm

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copy the text, open Max/Msp > File > New form Clipboard
https://docs.cycling74.com/max5/vignett ... tches.html

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chapelier fou
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Re: REAL TIME Quantizer

Post by chapelier fou » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:34 pm

I didn't test it, but I learnt several things just looking at the patch :

- the purpose of zl lookup
- the midiselect object (what's the difference with midiparse ?)
- coincidentally I used the same technique for splitting notes-on and notes-off yesterday for the first time.
- the fact that you could type something like "%i anything" as a slider custom unit.

Tell me how you patch, I'll tell you who you are
Thanks @doubleUG !
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doubleUG
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Re: REAL TIME Quantizer

Post by doubleUG » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:24 pm

@chapelier fou

happy patching


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copy the text, open Max/Msp > File > New form Clipboard
https://docs.cycling74.com/max5/vignett ... tches.html

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chapelier fou
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Re: REAL TIME Quantizer

Post by chapelier fou » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:47 pm

Oh, thanks !
Do you know a resource where I can learn about this text formatting ? (I've messed with sprintf in Max, but in a highly experimental way, with a lot of trial and error).
MacBook Pro 13" Retina i7 2.8 GHz OS 10.13, L10.0.1, M4L.
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dragon131313
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Re: REAL TIME Quantizer

Post by dragon131313 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:30 pm

doubleUG wrote:<pre><code>
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</code></pre>
Thank you DoubleUG but I couldn't make it work.
I followed the steps. I attached the screenshots.

SCREENSHOTS: https://imgur.com/a/5vru1SM

File -> New from Clipboard..... then I can see the patch, but I don't know how to make it work.
The last picture is all I have.

What should I do after that?
Also, I saw that you uploaded two pieces of code. This one and another one that is shorter.
Which should I use? are they the same?

Sorry, but I'm new to max 4 live.

Thanks again for your collaboration.
Leo

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