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taggatagga
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endless knob

Post by taggatagga » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:41 pm

I am looking for an assignable midi knob, that I can turn in one direction endlessly, but when it has reached the value of 127 it should go back and start outputting from 0 on again. And viceversa.

does anyone have an idea, i searched through max 4 live devices, but could not find it yet.

thank you

doubleUG
Posts: 246
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Re: endless knob

Post by doubleUG » Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:53 pm

<pre><code>
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-----------end_max5_patcher-----------
</code></pre>
copy the text, open Live > drag in empty M4L device > open Max editor > paste > save M4L device
https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignett ... ng_patches

https://doubleUG.bandcamp.com/releases

taggatagga
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Re: endless knob

Post by taggatagga » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:00 pm

Wow superfast, thanks!! That seems to be it.

Opening it in Max gives me the result, but how do I integrate this in Live, how am I supposed to export it?

chapelier fou
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Re: endless knob

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:16 pm

Drop a new midi m4l device. Click the “edit” icon. Save the device.
MacBook Pro 13" Retina i7 2.8 GHz OS 10.13, L10.0.1, M4L.
MacStudio M1Max 32Go OS 12.3.1

taggatagga
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Re: endless knob

Post by taggatagga » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:24 pm

thanks, did this but no results yet. but i guess i am missing something...

i want the knob to control the value of a macro, that is ontrolling the chain selector. Isnt it possible to map the knob onto the macro?

doubleUG
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Re: endless knob

Post by doubleUG » Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:54 pm

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copy the text, open Live > drag in empty M4L device > open Max editor > paste > save M4L device
https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignett ... ng_patches

https://doubleUG.bandcamp.com/releases

taggatagga
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Re: endless knob

Post by taggatagga » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:12 am

Thank you for your time. That is basically exactly what I was looking for.

It worked for 5mins now it just disables the macro1, whether it is already mapped or not. I downloaded the patch again and mcreated a new effect, but the result stays the same. strange..

Also I set it up as an audio effect at first, which worked just fine controlling the macro mapped to the chain selector - for 5min.

EDIT: It works again, my audio interface must be switched on. Interesting... I really know nothing yet.
Last edited by taggatagga on Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:22 am, edited 2 times in total.

doubleUG
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Re: endless knob

Post by doubleUG » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:21 am

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copy the text, open Live > drag in empty M4L device > open Max editor > paste > save M4L device
https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignett ... ng_patches

https://doubleUG.bandcamp.com/releases

taggatagga
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Re: endless knob

Post by taggatagga » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:35 am

Awesome!!

taggatagga
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Re: endless knob

Post by taggatagga » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:03 pm

On more thing... Is it be possible to build an offset to this button, so he would start his rounds at 53, while the makro starts at 0?

taggatagga
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Re: endless knob

Post by taggatagga » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:14 pm

Also it is really hard if not impossible to set it to zero.

doubleUG
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Re: endless knob

Post by doubleUG » Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:59 pm

taggatagga wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:14 pm
Also it is really hard if not impossible to set it to zero.
set the dail range to -1 128 change the sel to [sel -1 128]
copy the text, open Live > drag in empty M4L device > open Max editor > paste > save M4L device
https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignett ... ng_patches

https://doubleUG.bandcamp.com/releases

taggatagga
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Re: endless knob

Post by taggatagga » Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:00 pm

Image
My 5.0 surround workaround setup so far. I cant work with the surround panner because I need the center. This works quite fine for me now. Thanks again.

EDIT: I changed the knob to the to the PanD360m. Macro Range is mapped 18 to 109. As the center peaks at 64 I dont need an offset. Whatever :)

ludwigberger
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Re: endless knob

Post by ludwigberger » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:32 am

Hi! I am looking for the same thing, but while the "looping" works works when I use my mouse, the value stays at 127 when I use the endless knob on my APC40 MKII. Any hints? Thanks in advance.

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