Looking for a Midi Looper which can be automated

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kamikade
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Looking for a Midi Looper which can be automated

Post by kamikade » Sun May 24, 2020 7:17 pm

Hi everybody,
I'm doing live looping with automated looper plugins on different tracks (see eg. here https://www.instagram.com/p/CAIn-IrIad2 ... _copy_link)
sometimes it would be great to have a midi looper, doing exactly the same things as the ableton audio looper but for midi. I've been searching for so this for hours now but cannot find a solution (= a midi looper on which I can automate play/rec/stop in arrangement view).
Any ideas? Or am I maybe just not seeing the easy solution?!?
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Looking for a Midi Looper which can be automated

Post by amounra93 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:30 pm

I made something a few years ago for a client that would probably do exactly what you need, but it's part of a more complicated device, so I'll need to extract the methods I used and create a new standalone m4l device out of it. I've been meaning to do it for a while, as I have a need for it myself. Message me directly if you still need it and I'll see if I can move it to the front of my backlog :)

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Tarantulope
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Re: Looking for a Midi Looper which can be automated

Post by Tarantulope » Fri May 28, 2021 6:50 am

I can't help, I just also strongly wish for the same thing

I want to do hands free live looping in arrangement view using automation. I would love the ability to record a midi loop and automate the subsequent quantization of that loop.

I searched for step sequencers that I might be able to use live, but I haven't found anything that works live, and most only have 16 steps.

It's a bit frustrating

chapelier fou
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Re: Looking for a Midi Looper which can be automated

Post by chapelier fou » Fri May 28, 2021 12:22 pm

Is there any particular reason why using clips wouldn't work ?
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schlam
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Re: Looking for a Midi Looper which can be automated

Post by schlam » Sat May 29, 2021 6:29 am

I have quite the same question. ..
An advantage of the looper compared to clips is that looper will find the first bpm of the first loop, set it to live tempo and always divide the loop in equal bars even without quantization..

There is some decices that do that with midi clips but they are very old and buggy with recent Live versions.

If you have any idea ?

Cheers

doubleUG
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Re: Looking for a Midi Looper which can be automated

Post by doubleUG » Sun May 30, 2021 6:17 am

https://maxforlive.com/library/index.ph ... idi+looper

There are some Midi-Looper in MaxforLive.

schlam
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Re: Looking for a Midi Looper which can be automated

Post by schlam » Sun May 30, 2021 9:08 am

Yes but mainly all are not working well with live 11...
I really tried them all sonce a long time.
I never found a midi clip looper that work as well as the audio looper for midi.

The goal is to have a midi clip looper that set the global tempo when the first midi clip is record and which divide the clip in a regular number of bars..



The bests seem " midi clip looper v 0.1" or "libreloop" or "loopo" . These 3 devices are on maxforlive.com but none of them are working good on Live 11...

Any idea ?

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Re: Looking for a Midi Looper which can be automated

Post by doubleUG » Sun May 30, 2021 12:10 pm

seems doable with the new mtr object. Record unsynced in ms, then set the Live Tempo, start the Transport. Restart Loop ever X-Bars whith synced metro. But there is no quantisation since the notes recorded and saved in ms and not in ticks.

schlam
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Re: Looking for a Midi Looper which can be automated

Post by schlam » Sun May 30, 2021 1:36 pm

Thank you
Yes the updated mtr object is a great tool !
But i would like to use clips but with this possibility that the first recorded midi clip sets the global tempo and be divided in equal number of bars (without predefined number) it was exactly what "midi clip looper 0.1" did (it was even reviewed in SonicBloom some years ago) but it is not updated since a long time and is almost unusable on Live 11...

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