Transition Macro Variation

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llorenzo
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Transition Macro Variation

Post by llorenzo » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:55 am

Hi I 'm very happy about the new Macro Variations in the Racks in LIve 11.
I feel it is almost there but not quiet and are asking the Max developers if Max could fill the gap here.

I was thinking of three use cases:
1. Set macro variations as a single point in the Automation lane to do smooth curves between variations.
2. LFO like automatic sweeping through variations.
3. Mixing of variations in a single AB slider or even an ABCD field.

It could be easily solved by an ABCD field with the representation of a Variation on each corner.
The automation would have two lines X/Y.

Probably more interesting things to come up with...

chapelier fou
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Re: Transition Macro Variation

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:07 pm

Impossible to morph between variations.
I do this recently, maybe worth checking : https://maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=6850
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llorenzo
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Re: Transition Macro Variation

Post by llorenzo » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:15 am

Thanks for the link, it works quite well. :)
ABCD support would be great.

chapelier fou
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Re: Transition Macro Variation

Post by chapelier fou » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:31 pm

That would be interesting indeed. I’ll try to find some time.
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doubleUG
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Re: Transition Macro Variation

Post by doubleUG » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:31 pm

ABCD could be done with message "recallmulit" to pattrstorage

"recallmulti
Arguments
weighted-pairs
  • The word recallmulti, followed by at least 2 numeric arguments, permits weighted recall of multiple presets. Each argument determines the (normalized) weight of a particular preset in the final output. If the argument is an integer, the weight is 100%. If the argument is a floating point number, the integer part of the number determines the preset number, and the floating point part of the number determines the weight. For instance, recallmulti 1.3 2.3 5.4 would weight preset 1 at 30%, preset 2 at 30% and preset 5 at 40%. Since weights are normalized, the total weight can be higher than 100%; for instance, recallmulti 1.5 3.5 6.8 would calculate correct weights (27.77%, 27.77% and 44.44% respectively), and recallmulti 1 2 3, recallmulti 1.5 2.5 3.5 and recallmulti 1.99 2.99 3.99 all result in the same output (33.33% for each member)."

schlam
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Re: Transition Macro Variation

Post by schlam » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:43 pm

.. this device seems closed to what you are looking for..
..but maybe I misandeerstood,..
I didn't try L11...

https://maxforlive.com/library/device/6 ... -automator

doubleUG
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Re: Transition Macro Variation

Post by doubleUG » Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:11 pm

4 Preset Macro Morph with XY ABCD
https://maxforlive.com/library/device.php?id=6952

schlam
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Re: Transition Macro Variation

Post by schlam » Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:40 pm

@doubleUG

Your device works perfectly.
...but I believed he was talking about morphing of the new "variation stuff" of Live 11.
.not regular morphing of parameters.
Am I wrong ?

chapelier fou
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Re: Transition Macro Variation

Post by chapelier fou » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:07 pm

@well, as I said you can't morph variations.
And @doubleUG's device works perfectly as a replacement for the feature, so....
Congrats @doubleUG, super elegant device.
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schlam
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Re: Transition Macro Variation

Post by schlam » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:21 pm

yes the device works perfectly ! it's beautiful !

..just for curiosity. what is this device ?

https://maxforlive.com/library/device/6 ... -automator

it's written in the description : "Allows to create automations and morphing for Live 11's Variations."

chapelier fou
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Re: Transition Macro Variation

Post by chapelier fou » Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:17 am

Well, interesting ! I must have missed something in L11 API !
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