Cant find a controll for random value on keypress

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LaLoLiLo
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Cant find a controll for random value on keypress

Post by LaLoLiLo » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:04 pm

I cant believe i cant find this controll anywhere so it makes me think it cant easily be done with M4L.

I cant think why there is not a native version.
Id like a mappable controller that ouputs a random value when a note is pressed. I know there are random LFOs and such but what if you only want a random value for each key press? For example randomise a parameter of the VST, amount of audio effect, or which chain to choose. Here is to hoping that something like this exists and i just havent looked good enough.

Also id love to hear the M4L experts if there is a technical reason why this is not common or if im maybe alone in thinking it would be usefull?

chapelier fou
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Re: Cant find a controll for random value on keypress

Post by chapelier fou » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:23 pm

Maxforlive midi effects/expression control
“Random” parameter
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LaLoLiLo
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Re: Cant find a controll for random value on keypress

Post by LaLoLiLo » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:44 pm

Ive tried with the expressions control. I guess you are thinking about using the velocity? And map it to what "random" parameter? Is that another control?

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Re: Cant find a controll for random value on keypress

Post by LaLoLiLo » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:45 pm

chapelier fou wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:23 pm
Maxforlive midi effects/expression control
“Random” parameter
Ive tried with the expressions control. I guess you are thinking about using the velocity? And map it to what "random" parameter? Is that another control?

chapelier fou
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Re: Cant find a controll for random value on keypress

Post by chapelier fou » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:20 pm

Are you on Live 11 ?
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LaLoLiLo
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Re: Cant find a controll for random value on keypress

Post by LaLoLiLo » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:24 pm

chapelier fou wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:20 pm
Are you on Live 11 ?
No. Still on 10. Is it possible in 11?

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Re: Cant find a controll for random value on keypress

Post by chapelier fou » Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:33 pm

Yes. It’s been added to L11’s Expression Control.
Doable in L10 and M4L, though, I did make a device for this purpose somewhere. I bet there are free devices available on maxforlive.com that do just this.
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LaLoLiLo
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Re: Cant find a controll for random value on keypress

Post by LaLoLiLo » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:25 pm

chapelier fou wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:33 pm
Yes. It’s been added to L11’s Expression Control.
Doable in L10 and M4L, though, I did make a device for this purpose somewhere. I bet there are free devices available on maxforlive.com that do just this.
I have looked everywhere but can't find one that doesn't add other bad consequences cause you need to use it in a way it wasn't ment to.

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Re: Cant find a controll for random value on keypress

Post by chapelier fou » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:39 pm

Send me a pm and I’ll send you a device.
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