Max for Live developers...what's up with MPE ?

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chapelier fou
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Max for Live developers...what's up with MPE ?

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:46 pm

I just made a tour of maxforlive.com. Couldn't find any MPE compatible synth (except a few expensive ones, maybe).
I have my Osmose next to me, I want to learn how to program MPE synths and FXs. Any recommendations of FREE devices whose patching could be explored to learn ?
I'm super interested in MPE patching tutorial as well !
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Re: Max for Live developers...what's up with MPE ?

Post by [jur] » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:24 pm

chapelier fou wrote:
Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:46 pm
I have my Osmose next to me
Lucky man!

There's an MPE Arp @Isotonik and a few ones by Andrej Kobal, but not much mpe devices for the time being.
I feel like the reason is that it's looks complicated to program... well, that's actually the reason why I didn't yet dare to really take the plunge even though there's a few things I'd like to patch, but something's telling me that I'm not the only one being afraid by it.
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Re: Max for Live developers...what's up with MPE ?

Post by cazel » Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:12 am

not a synth but def worth checking out https://maxforlive.com/library/device/8738/autoslide

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Re: Max for Live developers...what's up with MPE ?

Post by chapelier fou » Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:28 pm

cazel wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:12 am
not a synth but def worth checking out https://maxforlive.com/library/device/8738/autoslide
Seems interesting indeed.
But I'm looking for resources to learn, or at least (free) devices that I could explore and do some revere engineering.
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Re: Max for Live developers...what's up with MPE ?

Post by cazel » Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:21 pm

chapelier fou wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:28 pm
cazel wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:12 am
not a synth but def worth checking out https://maxforlive.com/library/device/8738/autoslide
Seems interesting indeed.
But I'm looking for resources to learn, or at least (free) devices that I could explore and do some revere engineering.
https://github.com/sensel/C74-Max-Examples
https://github.com/spectral-lab/m4l-mpe-tools

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Re: Max for Live developers...what's up with MPE ?

Post by chapelier fou » Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:09 am

siliconarc wrote:
Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:11 pm
https://fors.fm/Chiral
Some have understanding issues with the word 'free' :D
That said, Ess's creations (fors) are always amazing, that could be worth it.
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Re: Max for Live developers...what's up with MPE ?

Post by siliconarc » Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:13 am

you failed to mention 'free' in your title and initial post :roll:

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Re: Max for Live developers...what's up with MPE ?

Post by chapelier fou » Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:14 am

Thanks, I'll dig into it.
I also downloaded the Rise Max package, but unfortunately it's mainly undocumented (no help files) externals.

I'm mainly interested in different ways to handle polyphony in synths. I'd love a clear statement from Ableton/C74 about how voices are allocated in M4L.

And also, as a feature request : the ability to explicitly target a specific voice in M4L. (the main reason has nothing to do with MPE, but this would allow multichannel from a single track).
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Re: Max for Live developers...what's up with MPE ?

Post by chapelier fou » Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:14 am

siliconarc wrote:
Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:13 am
you failed to mention 'free' in your title and initial post :roll:
Fair enough ! Editing the first post !
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Re: Max for Live developers...what's up with MPE ?

Post by [jur] » Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:39 pm

chapelier fou wrote:
Fri Jan 20, 2023 11:14 am
how voices are allocated in M4L.
Randomly, if I remember well... which is :?
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Re: Max for Live developers...what's up with MPE ?

Post by jamesway » Tue Mar 28, 2023 6:15 am

Mpe note off device from max4live.com helped me alot. I used that to organize notes with pressure and slide to multisliders so it's no longer random. Mpe midi from my keith mcmillan kboard recorded in a live clip works fine with my patches, but drawn midi notes do not trigger note off for some reason.

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