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 Post subject: Who uses Live with a live band? What tips can you give me?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:28 am 

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Ok. I keep trying to start using Live, try for awhile and give up. I’ve had it since 4, I think. Maybe earlier. I’m on 10 now. I only ever wanted it to be an addendum to use with my band. I’d be interested to hear from some of you out there who use it in this way. I’ve done exactly one gig with my band with Live. Many years ago. Not enough rehearsals though it did work.

My challenge is this is an original instrumental, jazz oriented band that has a fair amount of improvisation. Some of the music I wrote is bigger than what a four piece can reasonably pull off.

I need to get a simple foot controller and a trigger for the drummer. What works best? Pitfalls? I have about 6 projects I put together years ago I’m going to have to update. Sounds are old and lame. I have a nice audio interface. Metric Halo ULN-2. I’m planning on the drummer using phones and send him a click. I’ll have the foot controller. And maybe the keyboardist. I play guitar.

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 Post subject: Re: Who uses Live with a live band? What tips can you give me?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:39 pm 

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Nobody huh? Nobody uses this to augment a live band?

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 Post subject: Re: Who uses Live with a live band? What tips can you give me?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:34 pm 

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Plenty do, just probably out making a living and not on the forums at the moment. Probably need longer than half a day to respond.

Any MIDI foot controller will do anything you need it to in Live (play, stop, launch a clip or scene etc). Here are some ideas:

https://heavy.com/tech/2017/02/top-best ... interface/

How you would go about setting things up for your situation will differ to how I might want to do it so probably best to start with a list of problems you need to solve and start addressing each one, best way to design anything.

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 Post subject: Re: Who uses Live with a live band? What tips can you give me?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:39 pm 

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Thank you. I'm not as concerned about foot controllers. I have several already including the FAMC LF+12+ which is overkill for this. But it'd be interesting to see here what is most popular.

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 Post subject: Re: Who uses Live with a live band? What tips can you give me?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 12:23 am 

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I use Live in a live band setting. I am a bass player and I sometimes play in a Rush cover/tribute type band. I have a Roland PK-5A controller that I trigger with my feet that I interface to Ableton and a Roland Juno-G synth. Sometimes I use the PK-5A to play notes, sometimes I trigger samples, etc. Depends on the song.

Here's a diagram that shows my setup:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1helFPGD-tDIjyj9yrvIj0WuVBx11TWpH

I also sometimes play in an Iron Maiden cover/tribute and I use an Actition MIDI controller to trigger keyboard samples loaded into Ableton. The drummer also has a Roland SPD-SX drum pad that he uses to trigger samples. Here's a diagram that shows that configuration:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=18D6tvE4bD5f_nqcLBfrLGgdTGhMe96yT

One thing that I have recently done in the "Rush" configuration is to automate the selection of the Live set. Each song has its own Live set. What I do is program the set list into Juno-G in sequential "performances." Before starting a song, I press a single button on the Juno to select the "performace." This sends a Program Change message to my laptop. I run Bome's MIDI Translator Pro which receives the PC message and translates that into the keystrokes necessary to open the Live set for that song. MIDI Translator Pro also sends a SysEx message to the PK-5A to configure it. It works very well and has eliminated human error while on stage that can be a mess.

In the Maiden band, I have only 1 Live set that contains the samples for every song. The samples for each song are arranged vertically (Session View) in separate audio tracks. The drummer will select a "drum kit" on the drum pad which sends a Program Change message to my laptop. In this case, I use MIDI-OX to translate the PC messages to selectively SOLO a specific track. Then either he hits the pads on the SPD-SX to trigger sounds, or I use the Actition foot controller to trigger keyboard samples.

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