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Question about a preset

Post by GDubigny » Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:23 pm

Hi,
I've a question about a preset of wavetable : crockhausen.
In the matrix, there is the LFO 1 who modulate the pitch and ... his own amount. I don't understand the goal and the effect of this trick.. Do you have an idea ?
Thank you !

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Re: Question about a preset

Post by [jur] » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:06 pm

It just means that it modulates itself. What's weird with this?
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Re: Question about a preset

Post by GDubigny » Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:22 pm

Yes, I understand this, but I don't hear the effect on this preset.

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Re: Question about a preset

Post by [jur] » Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:24 pm

Try increasing the amount until you hear it.
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Re: Question about a preset

Post by pottering » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:01 am

The weird one in that preset is LFO 1 modulating LFO 1 Amount -100, seems that basically makes LFO 1 disable itself.

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Re: Question about a preset

Post by GDubigny » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:10 am

So here the LFO is useless ?

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Re: Question about a preset

Post by pottering » Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:15 pm

Not 100% sure. but the result of modulations show as thin moving bars under each Target in the left.

And it shows nothing under Pitch when I play the preset.

So yeah, I think LFO 1 is not doing nothing due to the -100 in its LFO 1 Amount self-modulation. Again, not 100% sure.

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Re: Question about a preset

Post by chapelier fou » Mon Sep 26, 2022 6:59 am

That's weird indeed, but the -100% amount seems to 'cancel' the 48 pitch target. If you set them both to 0, it sounds the same.
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Re: Question about a preset

Post by GDubigny » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:49 am

Ok, thank you for your answers. This is right for the 48 pitch target. It's even stranger. Maybe, the creator has made this preset with another and he forgot to delete these parameters.

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