I'd STILL kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep bass

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I'd STILL kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep bass

Post by The Phat Conductor » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:00 am

I've tried the auto filter, and the LFO doesn't sweep enough

I've tried sampler... and the filters squeak: http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=117222 :(

https://www.yousendit.com/download/cmcw ... RllLSkE9PQ

Volcano is a BIG processor hog and clicks when you change sync'd LFO rate.
WOW sounds decent, but not half as good for dubstep bass as Volcano or Massive, or Kontakt.
...most of the audio filters don't really trigger off of audio very reliably... and sidechaining the midi is kind of a pain.

i can use vsts, for sure... but really what i want is just a nice simple LFO filter that sounds nice and fat.

is that too much to ask?

i will trade SERIOUS racks + vip business if anyone can hook me up with a PROPER native lfo filter rack for wobbly dubtep bass.

Basically i just want the sampler filters to work properly.

*** edit

nobody has sent me any racks yet :(

i think that we can safely say ableton sucks for making LFO'd dubstep bass.

TRAGIC!

:(
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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by ampman117 » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:54 am

Have you checked out fabfilter volcano? Tons of modulation options, filters and a killer interface...plus it sounds great (in my opinion).

http://www.fabfilter.com/products/volcano.php

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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by de wouzer » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:24 am

i like massive, and the filter in massive. (native instruments).

But... do you use the filter freq and q to sweep? you can automate them... and they are cool, i think.

fabfilter is beter, i think... that's true
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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by maze23a » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:28 am

This is a whole synth but i've heard it shall be great for dubstep kind of basses:

Rob Papens-Subboombass

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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by de wouzer » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:30 am

on youtube you can find a lot of tutorials about "how to wobble with massive" or with massive/ ableton. Also a tutorial by benga...
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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by jkob » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:42 am

This is a whole synth but i've heard it shall be great for dubstep kind of basses:

Rob Papens-Subboombass
totally agree!

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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by hurlingdervish » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:26 pm

The Phat Conductor wrote:I've tried the auto filter, and the LFO doesn't sweep enough

I've tried sampler... and the filters squeak: http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=117222 :(

i can use vsts, for sure... but really what i want is just a nice simple LFO filter that sounds nice and fat.

is that too much to ask?

i will trade SERIOUS racks + vip business if anyone can hook me up with a PROPER lfo filter for wobbly dubtep bass.
the only problem i see with it is no retrigger. maybe you should use BP instead of LP?

also i like resampling synth meyhem in the dubstep range then loading it up into the drumrack in each of which slot has an lfo (and whatever effects you can drop in there)

i guess camel audio has a good filter out there too

but i think resampling is the way to go
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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by hurlingdervish » Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:36 pm

http://www.box.net/shared/giocp4yolk

example in wav of completely native dubstep

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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by glamourboy » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:00 pm

i've recently made a wobbly bass wobbling on dotted eights with great succes. i just used zebra and it's filter modulated by it's great lfo, which has some nice retriggering options.

but i'm sensing you are looking for an insert and not a synth.

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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by The Phat Conductor » Fri Jun 12, 2009 5:59 pm

i'm talking about for samples.

i know how to use a synth ;)

i'll check out the fabfilter volcano soon...

so is there really no way to do it in ableton or sampler? i mean... i know it can be 'done' but i'm talking about done WELL...
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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by The Phat Conductor » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:03 pm

hurlingdervish wrote:http://www.box.net/shared/giocp4yolk

example in wav of completely native dubstep
how did you make this? is this sampler or synths? it's not exactly what i was looking for but is definitely fun, dirty and cool. if it's with autofilter or sampler i would swap you some stuff for it.

also: is there a way to make the lfo sound less 'square'. i was having that problem in ableton with the sine lfos as well... it sounds like 'chak chak chak' as opposed to 'wap wap wap'.
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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by emef » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:13 pm

check out filter shaper
fantastic for wobbles on any audio
great drawable envelopes
similar type thing as the n.i. massive performer lfo
29 euros... bargain

http://www.cableguys.de/filter-shaper.html

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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by selthym » Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:00 am

The Phat Conductor wrote:
hurlingdervish wrote:http://www.box.net/shared/giocp4yolk

example in wav of completely native dubstep
also: is there a way to make the lfo sound less 'square'. i was having that problem in ableton with the sine lfos as well... it sounds like 'chak chak chak' as opposed to 'wap wap wap'.
Would a bit of envelope modulation help here... What about a bit of sidechain modulation?

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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by blitit » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:35 am

With ableton's analog you can make a good wobble bass. Also with simpler or sampler with some good waveform samples you can make big fat wobble basses. No need of other vsti's.

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Re: I'd kill for a good LFO filter for dubstep basses....

Post by emef » Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:45 am

true
simpler and operator are great wobble makers

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