Controlling the Loop Brace via Midi

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Controlling the Loop Brace via Midi

Post by thecageofconsent » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:30 pm

Hello All,

This is my first post on here.

I was wondering if anyone knew of the best way to midi map a controller so that, for example, if you have a loop brace around 1/2 bar of an 8 bar sample, you can move the loop brace around the sample using a midi controller, while still maintaining the loop brace size at 1/2 a bar.

The hope being that this would allow you to do live re-imagninings of drum loops/samples.

Thanks in advance for all replies.

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Re: Controlling the Loop Brace via Midi

Post by Tone Deft » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:30 pm

open clip view, turn on midi learn mode (ctrl-m.)

anything that lights up you can assign a controller to. imagine how you'd do it with a mouse and mimic those movements.

sorry, at work, can't give too detailed of an answer.
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Re: Controlling the Loop Brace via Midi

Post by Spr4wl » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:05 pm

The only way to control the loop brace is through key commands. They are:

- nudge loop left/right: arrow left/ arrow right
- move loop by loop length: arrow up/ arrow down
- double/halve loop length: ctl/cmd + arrow up/ arrow down
- shorten/lengthen loop: ctl/cmd + arrow left/ arrow right

***One important note, however. The loop brace must be selected (highlighted) for this to work. The only way I know to highlight this is by clicking on it.

All of these are extremely fun to play with, but aren't controllable with a MIDI controller, unless you use something like Bome's MIDI translator or Max/MSP.

Not a perfect solution, but it can work. Hope this helps.

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Re: Controlling the Loop Brace via Midi

Post by JEB » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:16 pm

in live 8 you can assign the loop position and length to a rotary or something, under the sample tab in clip view. you'd want to map loop position to do what you mention.

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Re: Controlling the Loop Brace via Midi

Post by thecageofconsent » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:31 pm

Thanks everyone for your very useful replies!
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Re: Controlling the Loop Brace via Midi

Post by michaellpenman » Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:28 pm

To Control the sample brace just use a rotery and have no quantize or a small amount to scan right through

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Re: Controlling the Loop Brace via Midi

Post by dentaku » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:21 pm

michaellpenman wrote:To Control the sample brace just use a rotery and have no quantize or a small amount to scan right through
Very nice. I turned off the quantize and assigned the loop position to knob 9 of my nanoKONTROL. It works quite well.

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Re: Controlling the Loop Brace via Midi

Post by Mr D » Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:13 pm

It's absolutely ridiculous that you can't map a midi controller to either the playhead or the loop bracket positions in Live.

Those loop brackets are really small and fiddly to grab with the mouse, why can't with just move them with a CC message?

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Re: Controlling the Loop Brace via Midi

Post by [jur] » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:13 pm

It seems that this M4L device is made to workaround this.
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Re: Controlling the Loop Brace via Midi

Post by Mr D » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:46 pm

[jur] wrote:
Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:13 pm
It seems that this M4L device is made to workaround this.
Thanks!

Hmmmmm, i'm not sure, i don't see anything in the blurb that says it let's you move the brackets with a midi knob, seems more like a tool for live performance loopers, right?

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