Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by the bite » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:01 pm

It would be possible to implement a method to unlink envelopes without touching the mouse to the list of awesome things this programs do???

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by bigmonster7 » Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:12 pm

Is this possible:

I have a controller that has 4 vertical slides that can give visual feedback also. I know how to assign each vertical slider (via midi mapping) to 4 track volume controls.. and I also know how to assign one slider to "selected track volume control"... however, I am looking to have each of the four sliders reflect each set of four track volumes as I move from side to side.

For example, I currently have track 1 selected, so the four vertical sliders are currently controlling track 1, 2, 3, and 4 respectively. But when I move over to track 2, then I should have now control of track 2,3,4,5 volume with visual feedback associated on the midi controller. So now what was showing on vertical slider 2 for track 2, is now showing on vertical slider 1 for track 2.

Make sense?

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by wiffbi » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:18 pm

@bigmonster7: sorry, I was away from the internet for the holidays. Currently, what you describe is not possible with STC. The functionality is basically the "red-box"-feature of a controller like the APC40, etc. I do have plans for an update to STC, which is largely based on the API _Framework-Classes, which support the feature you describe. The problem is, I currently do not have much time to work on that. :( Hopefully in February, but who knows, I am telling me this since summer …

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by bigmonster7 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:35 am

thanks dude!

last question: any recommendations on how I could best start learning about python or writing midi remote scripts? I am a semi-IT person ( I know basic SQL, and what not)... any advice would be appreciated.. books, sites, etc..

thanks!

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by wiffbi » Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:30 pm

@bigmonster7: For MIDI Remote Scripts you need some basic understanding of Python to get started. Object-oriented features or at least how classes work in Python are important – just so know what to look for.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Non-Progra ... Python_2.6
http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/

Regarding MIDI Remote Scripts I think Hanz Petrov is a great start (although it sometimes is harder than it needs to be, but this is what got me started):
http://remotescripts.blogspot.de/2010/0 ... asses.html

Cycling’s Live Object Model reference page is also good to know, which properties are available:
http://cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages ... model.html

I hope this helps.

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by nc2010 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:09 pm

I didn't want to read all 17 pages of this topic(shame on me of course!) :

is there a simple solutions for using keyboard shortcuts to select tracks, arm, solo, etc. ?
thanks

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by wiffbi » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:05 pm

@nc2010: alongside STC comes a little app called Kimidi – it transforms keyboard shortcuts into MIDI commands, which then can be interpreted by Live and STC. Kimidi is only available for Mac OS X though.

Have a look at the following website. You need to download both, Kimidi and STC (right column, two separate downloads). You have to install STC as a MIDI Remote Script as described on the website here. Kimidi is a simple Mac app:

http://stc.wiffbi.com/download/

Read the docs for available keyboard shortcuts:
http://stc.wiffbi.com/midi-implementation-chart/

I hope this helps.

P.S.: For Windows, I have no idea. STC itself also works in Live on Windows, but you need something to translate keyboard shortcuts into MIDI.

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by bigmonster7 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:14 pm

wiffbi wrote:@bigmonster7: For MIDI Remote Scripts you need some basic understanding of Python to get started. Object-oriented features or at least how classes work in Python are important – just so know what to look for.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Non-Progra ... Python_2.6
http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/

Regarding MIDI Remote Scripts I think Hanz Petrov is a great start (although it sometimes is harder than it needs to be, but this is what got me started):
http://remotescripts.blogspot.de/2010/0 ... asses.html

Cycling’s Live Object Model reference page is also good to know, which properties are available:
http://cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages ... model.html

I hope this helps.
THanks dude!

No this is more of a confirmation than a question: When using the STC with ableton, and using the script to connect my control surface to ableton control features, I should still be able to get midi data sent back to my device.. correct? In this situation, I setup my controller to have the sends controlled by 4 vertical slides which have LED lights next to it. According to the manual, if I want LED feed back for the sends, I need to have them assigned 1-4 CC controls. I did that, and I also modified the setting.py file so the sends are controlled (via STC also) 1-4CC. So in retrospect, I should still receive midi feedback to my device even though I am using STC as the control surface script.

make sense?

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by wiffbi » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:37 pm

@bigmonster: makes sense, but unfortunately STC currently does not support MIDI-Feedback in its current form. So regarding your question I have to say: sadly no. I am working (currently more off than on) on an update to STC, that uses the _Framework-Classes, which support MIDI-Feedback. But I can’t say, when this update will be available. I am sorry!

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by sinextesia » Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:21 pm

Hi,

I don't think Kimidi works yet with Ableton Live 9.
Any news about it?
Is there any other alternative for similar functionality at the moment?

Thanks!

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by wiffbi » Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:53 pm

Regarding Live 9: I only had the chance to have a short play with the demo. Selected_Track_Control (the MIDI Remote Script) had issues with its solo kill / mute kill feature, but other than that, it worked – at least in my short test. Kimidi (the Mac app that converts keystrokes to MIDI) also worked for me. Thanks to jag jag for pointing out the solo kill/mute kill bug. It is fixed on github, I have not yet had the time to thoroughly test everything, so I have not made an "official" release. But you can download the latest from github here:

https://github.com/wiffbi/Selected_Track_Control/

e.g. the ZIP-file is here: https://github.com/wiffbi/Selected_Trac ... master.zip
IMPORTANT: when you unzip the downloaded folder, you need to rename the folder from "Selected_Track_Control-master" to "Selected_Track_Control" (and of course move it to Live’s MIDI Remote Scripts and restart Live).

@sinexesia: do you have anything in particular that isn't working? I haven’t been able to test everything but a quick check worked for me.

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by sinextesia » Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:02 pm

@wiffbi: I just thought that the actual release in your web ( 1.2.8 ) wouldn't work for Live 9. I downloaded the mentioned version in your last post and everything looks really good in Live 9!

Thanks!

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by Ittai » Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:21 pm

Hi.
First I want to thank you for this script. STC really helps me with my workflow.

One thing I couldn't get to work is the next scene command. When I send the correct MIDI message from my foot pedal (fcb1010) Live selects the next scene but contiuse to play the currently playing clips.
Is this a known issue or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks
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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by wiffbi » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:16 pm

@Ittai: which MIDI command are you sending? You need to use "fire next scene", which is Note 40 (E1).

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Re: Control selected track \w keyboard shortcuts

Post by Heyclown » Sun May 05, 2013 9:25 am

It´s really a shame that ableton has not figured out a way to solo selected track by keyboards commands.
I came from Logic monday. Installed Live 9 suite and Push. This and other flaws makes (among them no swipe-solo/swipe-mute several tracks)
- for me - ableton Live 9 a fun tool. No serious mixing contender. And thats it.

Great that you guys are helping out the community where ableton failed.

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