Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

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abletony84
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Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by abletony84 » Thu May 05, 2011 7:33 am

Hey!

Anybody know how to do this delay/reverb thing? Sounds like shockwaves fading into space or something - kinda hard to explain but - you'll know once you listen to it.

Example 1: http://tinyurl.com/45x4ne8
Example 2: http://tinyurl.com/3pzz35z

Replica (have a go at it will ya?): http://tinyurl.com/3uyrr4u

I've tried my best automating the Reverb plugin in at the end with extra long decay time etc. with all sorts of delay plugins in front / back, but I just can't seem to get anywhere near it.

Many thanks!

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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by essegibi » Thu May 05, 2011 12:55 pm

sounds to me like a dub delay feedback thingy even though i found it a bit difficult to really hear whats going on in there.
anywho, try setting up a ping pong on a return (100%wet), and a reverb on a return as well... the clue is to enable sends on the returns, feed the ping pong delay back to itself(f.ex, return a sends to return a), play around with the filter and automate stuff! you can even record it and sculpt the effect if preferable, make sure it ends up in a reverb of some sort though..
not sure it´s what you´re looking for, but thats my best bet anyways..

good luck

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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by simpli.cissimus » Thu May 05, 2011 7:41 pm

Try AudioDamage DubDelay... :wink:
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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by innerstatejt » Thu May 05, 2011 8:38 pm

Definitely best accomplished with Delay and Verbs on send/return tracks and assigning sends to a midi controller for some live tweaking. When you get it right, you may even be able to set up a macro for it (but that might be too much work for the trouble).

good luck!

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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by abletony84 » Thu May 05, 2011 11:01 pm

Can you guys please try it yourselves first? Because it seems like you're all just taking some guesses. I can't get anywhere near the real thing using any of this stuff.

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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by dentaku » Fri May 06, 2011 1:02 am

This site has a decent explanation of how to set this up but his examples are not too good.
http://www.djtechtools.com/2011/04/25/a ... dub-delay/

You can also try out ValhallaFreqEcho
http://www.valhalladsp.com/valhallafreqecho

Or even Tal-Dub
http://kunz.corrupt.ch/?Products:VST_TAL-Dub
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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by eddiex » Fri May 06, 2011 1:48 am

abletony84 wrote:Can you guys please try it yourselves first? Because it seems like you're all just taking some guesses. I can't get anywhere near the real thing using any of this stuff.
haha :D dude everyone is just trying to help......the examples you put up were like two seconds of a lot of stuff going on...yeah everyone is taking their best shot at what we think you want...relax bro. :wink: jeeeze
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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by MisterMcGillicuddy » Sun May 08, 2011 8:38 am

abletony84 wrote:Can you guys please try it yourselves first? Because it seems like you're all just taking some guesses. I can't get anywhere near the real thing using any of this stuff.
pshhh. you try it yourself.
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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by abletony84 » Sun May 08, 2011 8:54 am

I did. Been trying for years now.


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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by abletony84 » Sun May 08, 2011 11:31 am

@eddiex: I meant no disrespect.

@PR1392: That's awesome man!

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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by abletony84 » Mon May 09, 2011 4:38 pm

I'm hearing the exact same type of reverb/delay thing on the new Lazer Sword album:

http://www.stonesthrow.com/store/album/ ... azer-sword

Maybe y'all can check that out?

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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by eddiex » Mon May 09, 2011 7:25 pm

abletony84 wrote:@eddiex: I meant no disrespect.
no problem!! i get the frustration. good luck brother
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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by abletony84 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:17 pm

Added some more examples:

Example 2: http://tinyurl.com/3pzz35z (updated)
Example 3: http://tinyurl.com/6fvvslq
Example 4: http://tinyurl.com/68mqbf6

I just can't get anywhere near the real thing though:

feedback_loop.mp3 (embarassing)
feedback_loop Project.zip

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Re: Whys this delay/reverb gotta be so damn hard to accomplish??

Post by perplex » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:44 pm

sounds like video game laser samples, with a filter delay and reverb, automated from small to high, high being the tail end of course

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