External hardware synth automation in Ableton

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shinobi
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External hardware synth automation in Ableton

Post by shinobi » Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:03 pm

Hi to all!

I got this problem which I seem not to be able to solve. It's about automation of my external synths in Ableton in the arrangement view and I am not talking about clip envelope automation but lanes automation like with the vsts.

Thanks a lot guys! :)

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Re: External hardware synth automation in Ableton

Post by Mage2k » Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:26 am

shinobi wrote:Hi to all!

I got this problem which I seem not to be able to solve. It's about automation of my external synths in Ableton in the arrangement view and I am not talking about clip envelope automation but lanes automation like with the vsts.

Thanks a lot guys! :)
It would really help if you explained what you're trying to do and what the problem is.

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Re: External hardware synth automation in Ableton

Post by shinobi » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:58 pm

ok, when I turn a knob on Evolver for example I want to see how the automation takes place as much in clip as on the lane in the arrangement view :)

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Re: External hardware synth automation in Ableton

Post by Mage2k » Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:15 pm

shinobi wrote:ok, when I turn a knob on Evolver for example I want to see how the automation takes place as much in clip as on the lane in the arrangement view :)
Unfortunately, you can't record clip automation. I think that's probably one of the biggest requested features that has yet to be implemented.

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Re: External hardware synth automation in Ableton

Post by shinobi » Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:36 am

What about lane automation, in the arrangement view. Can that be done from the synth knobs?

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Re: External hardware synth automation in Ableton

Post by siliconarc » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:46 am

recording from external midi gear will put the cc data inside the clips along with the notes, not in the automation lanes. i'm sure there are some workarounds to get it working in automation lanes, but theyre probably not worth the effort. just use clips and put in a +1 on the wishlist.

Mage2k wrote: Unfortunately, you can't record clip automation.
you're talking about recording automation into clips for Live's own devices in Session view. completely different issue.

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Re: External hardware synth automation in Ableton

Post by shinobi » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:14 pm

[quote="garyboozy"]recording from external midi gear will put the cc data inside the clips along with the notes, not in the automation lanes. i'm sure there are some workarounds to get it working in automation lanes, but theyre probably not worth the effort. just use clips and put in a +1 on the wishlist.


So, where can I see that, I mean beside the notes...?

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Re: External hardware synth automation in Ableton

Post by siliconarc » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:50 pm

shinobi wrote:So, where can I see that, I mean beside the notes...?
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Re: External hardware synth automation in Ableton

Post by shinobi » Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:51 pm

For some reason, I cannot record automation from my synth's knobs... :(

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Re: External hardware synth automation in Ableton

Post by shinobi » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:13 am

shinobi wrote:For some reason, I cannot record automation from my synth's knobs... :(
Is it possible that I'm doing something wrong?

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Re: External hardware synth automation in Ableton

Post by siliconarc » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:17 am

check your synth's documentation. if the knobs don't send out CCs to the external midi port, you could always use another controller - hooked up to both the synth and to Live - to record the automation (and play it back out to the synth)

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