TIPS AND TRICKS........ operator, impulse and more.....

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TIPS AND TRICKS........ operator, impulse and more.....

Post by hoffman2k » Sat Mar 12, 2005 1:45 am

With this tutorial, i will show you some cool tricks to inspire you.
Now that you finished every tutorial about the operator, you are thirsty for more.
Who wouldn't be? :)

FILTERING NOTE'S
METHOD 1

First you will need to download these scale presets. And follow the instructions of the README to install them.
http://users.telenet.be/Vayner/beatbox%20scales.zip

These presets are made, so that you can filter the note's being sent to several tracks.
In this example, we will input midi with a keyboard (or midi-clip) in track 1.
Track 1 will send midi to track 2, 3, 4, and 5.
With the scale plugins, we will make it so that track 2 only receives midi-note C2.
Track 2 = C2
Track 3 = D2
Track 4 = E2
Track 5 = F2

First set up 5 midi tracks as shown in the picture.
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Now add scale devices to the tracks.
Track 1 = 2 scale devices. Load the preset "beatbox1" on the first. Load "beatbox2" on the second.

Track 2 = 2 scale devices. Load the preset "op1" on the first. Load "op1b" on the second.

Track 3 = 1 scale device. Load the preset "op2".

Track 4 = 1 scale device. Load the preset "op3".

Track 5 = 1 scale device. Load the preset "op4".

We will only use 4 operators for this example. But with the presets that are included you can have up to 8 operators.
The black keys on the keyboard are not used. And you always need 2 scale plugins if the note is a C.

And there is another method too which is actually allot more easy.
But i learned that the hard way :)

FILTERING NOTE'S
METHOD 2

For the second method you just add 1 pitch plugin to the track you want to filter.
- set it's range to 0
- specify which note can be played
- thats it

Ok, thats two tricks covered. You can save your 'live-set' for later use.
This template is useful if you want to control several instruments from 1 source.
You could trigger different drum sounds, sample's or au/vst's.
Or even rhythmic patches on the operator.
My next trick will show you why i think this is a cool trick.


TERMINAL VELOCITY

Take the 'Live-set' you just made. And add an operator to Track 2, 3, 4 and 5.
If you play on track 1, you will notice that each operator only plays 1 specified note.

Lets make some patches. The patches we are going to make will use the operator's ability to modulate various parameters with note velocity.

I will show you screenshots of all the parameters. I could just give you the patches. But thats no use if you want to build your own later.
I will always start with oscillator A on the factory preset.

---TIP--- If you find it hard to get the right value with your mouse. Then you can enter the value with your keyboard. If you want to enter a value like "24,1 Seconds", you enter "24100".

---TIP---If you want to learn more about the parameter you are tweaking., remember that the info view has an explanation of every parameter. Just move your mouse over the parameter you want to learn more about.


Operator 1 (track 2)

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If you play with this patch on your keyboard, you will notice that note velocity makes the sound change. Instead of just going louder or quieter. That is because we changed the "Osc<Vel" parameter on Oscillator A and the "Freq<Vel" parameter on the filter.

Operator 2 (track 3)

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Operator 3 (track 4)

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Operator 4 (track 5)

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Now you have 4 different sounds that can be played from track 1. The patch on operator 4 is a rhythmic patch.
Make a new midi-clip in track 1 by double-clicking on a slot.
Draw in some notes like this. I am working at 138 BPM. But that really doesn't matter much.

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Turn the monitor on track 1 to "auto"
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Ok, i know it's not a musical masterpiece. But this is really all to show you something cool.

Add a velocity plugin to track 1. And play around with it. especially the "Out Hi" parameter.
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Like that? I bet that noise patch on the 4th operator annoys you.
You just learned how to alter patches to respond to note velocity. And if you downloaded the free covert operators patches for the operator, then you have more then enough to play with.

I must warn you. If you hook up a midi controller and assign some knobs to the velocity plugin, global time/tone parameters on the operators,.........
You might lose several hours of valuable time.




---TIP---You can also do this with the simpler. Other vst/au will work too. But the operator is easier to handle and is fully automate-able.

---TIP---Actually, you have 4 operators with free slots for clip automation.

---TIP---Effects and some more routings can spice up things drastically.

---TIP---You actually have enough scale presets to do this with 8 operators. Or 7 operators and a simpler. Or............

---TIP---You can also make different groups of these routings. Try making some complex melody's that you blend in with the velocity plugin.

---TIP---If you want to use midi-clips that where made for the impulse. You will have to add a pitch plugin as the first device on track 1. And set it to -12.

---TIP--- Filtering note's also works with the pitch plugin

I hope you enjoyed this tutorial. To be continued..........



written by Bjorn Vayner
Thanks to Machinate and Conny
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Post by experimedia » Sat Mar 12, 2005 2:53 am

Thank you sir. Having a blast with this. Your contributions are highly appreciated.

You deserve a pdf I made from your tutorial for my own safe keeping.

Thanks Again!! Back to big fun.

Edited = mixed my bb and html in my link. Derp!
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Post by hoffman2k » Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:02 am

experimedia wrote:Thank you sir. Having a blast with this. Your contributions are highly appreciated.

You deserve a [url=http://experimedia.net/docs/FilteringNotes.pdf]pdf[/a] I made from your tutorial for my own safe keeping.

Thanks Again!! Back to big fun.
Thanks for the pdf. I did not realise that it was a 6 page trick ;)
I hope it all makes sense.
If somebody could help me with a german translation, i would be very grateful.

Cheers

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Post by tommy2000 » Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:17 am

Very very nice! Much appreciated!

Tom

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Post by hoffman2k » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:56 pm

I made a little live-set that has a better audio example.
http://users.telenet.be/Vayner/terminal ... y2.als.zip

On track 1, there are 3 parameters you really should play with.
- the velocity plugin (turn op the value of "out hi", play with random velocity in midi clips like the 2nd)
- the Random plugin. You know why :wink: also very recommended on sequences like clip 2

The audio of the 4 operators is routed to track 6. that has a resonator and a limiter.

Cheers

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Post by colin_h » Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:44 pm

thanks to hoffman2k for the tutorial(s) and experimedia for the pdf!
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Post by conny » Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:16 pm

Thanks, useful as always!
But all these scale plugins make me a little confused.
Whats the difference from ading just one pitch plugin on track 2, setting range to 0 and lowest to C2 etc?

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Post by hoffman2k » Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:49 am

I cant build up that way. Remember, the note's must be filtered.
But hey, if you got a better solution. Then send it over.
I agree it's confusing. But if you have done it once or twice with this tutorial. And you have the scale presets....
It takes about 10 seconds to set up.

You can do several of these groups in a row. But you will have to name your tracks. Otherwise it's a total mess.
I have a jam template that has 3 of these groups. And all the velocity plugins + some operator parameters are assigned to a midi controller....

Maybe you're starting to notice a theme here. Live is a great application to work with sample's and synths to compose a song. But the best feature is the flexibility.
I have several jam templates where i can make (or break) loops in various manners.

You can even make a template that just randomly generates sounds. Press record and go out for some empty dvd's :wink:

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Post by conny » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:30 pm

I still dont get it :oops:

One pitch (no shifting) on each receiving track, just letting note at lowest setting through (C,D,E,F resp). One note filtering - alas!

OK, may be I'll upload my version to understand the diference.

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Post by hoffman2k » Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:55 pm

ok.. you got me. I'm a dumb-ass.... :oops:
I actually did this before. But somehow got sidetracked with the scale plugin.
I need new toys :)
Thanks for the tip though. i added it in the tricks above.

I could have just replaced it with the initial trick. But the more you know.....

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Post by conny » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:36 pm

Survival of the mutually best adaptive and cooperative species...
Thanks h2k, I was afraid I was at the wrong end of this!
Great work your are doing.
Keep it up!

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Post by hoffman2k » Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:13 pm

More drum sounds


Ok.....
In addition to the trick to have more slots on the impulse with the help of scale plugins.
There is also a way to do it with the pitch plugin.

- load 3 midi tracks in Live. send midi from the first track to track 2 and 3
- add an impulse to track 2 and 3
- add 2 pitch plugins to track 3
- Set the 'range' of the first pitch plugin to "+12 st" and 'lowest' to "C4"
- set the second pitch to -12

Now you can play 2 impulse's from one track.
If it bugs you that 2 sounds get triggered when you press "C4" then you just have to set the 'lowest' value on the second pitch plugin to "D4"

Here is an example with 5 impulse's. All you need to do is load sounds in them and play midi on track 1.

http://users.telenet.be/Vayner/5%20times%207.als.zip

The method with the scale plugin is useful if you want to assign the slots of the impulse's to a chromatic scale ( white and black keys)

Here's an example of how to do it with the scale plugin
http://users.telenet.be/Vayner/Bigger%20Impulse.zip

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Post by hoffman2k » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:20 pm

The operator: A CPU Hog?

When the operator came out. There was allot of discussion about it taking up to much cpu.
I made a Demo Live-set with 14 operators. Triggered from one clip.
And i can honestly say that i can build a patch on one operator, that uses more cpu then this entire sequence.

The operator will only use more cpu, if you want it too. It's just a matter of getting to know which parameters hog all the cpu. (spread, unused voices/LFO's/filters)

Just trigger the first clip. The follow acttions will take over from there.

http://users.telenet.be/Vayner/DEMO_14o ... ns.als.zip

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Post by hoffman2k » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:57 pm

Splitting Keyboards

This is pretty easy to do.
Here is an example.

- open up 4 midi tracks
- send midi from track 1 to track 2, 3 and 4
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Now load a pitch plugin into track 2.
In this example, you instrument will play from c-2 to d3 if you set up the plugin like this:
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Set up a second pitch plugin in track 3 like this:
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This will only play one octave.

Now set up the third plugin in track 4 like this:
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This will play anything from c4 and up.

I made a Live-set to demonstrate in case you got lost here :)
http://users.telenet.be/Vayner/sk%20jpg ... rd.als.zip

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Post by ikeaboy » Thu May 12, 2005 4:53 pm

:D :D Bump, still getting my head around whats happening with the Scale midi plugins.

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