overdub

jenz · Post by **jenz** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:31 pm

Hello all!!!

I like Live 9 very much but I was wondering if it's possible for the overdub to work in the same way as Live 8?

Thanx!

nemoy · Post by **nemoy** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:17 am

midi overdub? session view?
a.f.a.i.k. it's just a new button. (little cyrcle right to the transport)

jenz · Post by **jenz** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:33 pm

In the session view... I know for the little circle...
It's just that, when I press on that little circle,
All the record enabeled tracks record a new clip...
In my setup, it bugs me...

nemoy · Post by **nemoy** » Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:56 am

HOLY SHIT! This sucks!!!!!!!
didn't even notice yet!!

This messes up my entire Way of playing live!!!!
shit shit shit

nemoy · Post by **nemoy** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:54 am

I still havent found anything in the preferences!
this little "improvement" evolves from a minor inconvenience to a full on show stopper!!

And why does the midi Overdub Button launch armed audio clips anyway!!
the hell!?

Help!!

jenz · Post by **jenz** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:10 am

I will use Live 8 for drum trigers improv and Live 9 for composing i guess...

Logic8807 · Post by **Logic8807** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:02 am

I thought I was the only one who noticed this. I hate it. I just want to preset MIDI OVERDUB to always be on and leave it on.

I like to make empty 2 bar clips and just play my drums while launching from the APC40 but this throws me off.

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:41 am

This whole new stuff is freaking me out....
So complicated and weird.

nemoy · Post by **nemoy** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:38 pm

let me explain then:
I'm speaking session view only,
Liveperformances on stage.

maybe a good 90 percent of live users
never have multiple tracks armed.
there's no problem with midi overdub,
if you do just that.

But: in a live situation, where you have
several instruments connected to live,
and several channels armed, that damn
new midi overdub button launches
every single one of the armed channels.

so instead of just adding new notes to
your midclip, you record in my case 7
audio clips, which then block the signal
of all the live instruments, connected
to these channels.

so basically, whenever i've overdubbed some
new drumnotes into a running clip, i then have
to manually remove every single one of the Clips
that damn Midi Overdub Button just recorded.

(actually, the former "overdub" button
is now called "session record" and that's
probably where it all began... i don't know
what they were thinking!!)

BTW: Shift-click on midi overdub does the trick.
But it's really bad, that we have to use the mouse
and keyboard again, after we all have put so much
effort into not having to use the mouse & keyboard
on stage!

that's really kind of annoying...

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:20 pm

+ 100000. Been in contact with ableton about this behavior. This is insane. I encourage you to contact them as well. And to read my topic on this subject : viewtopic.php?f=1&t=190292&start=0&hili ... L9+useless

nemoy · Post by **nemoy** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:31 pm

cool! thanks chapelier fou!
that thread pretty much covers it all...

I've already mailed them and received a few propositions:

1. remove all other recbuttons (cmd & e)
// but i need them...

2. mapping a Button on the APC to the little
plus icon next to the record icon.
// but thats only for arrangement.. so nope!

3. only arm the one track, i'd like to overdub.
// but i need the others. that's bullshit!

So, i'm trying those patches next!

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:24 am

@funken :
I personally won't touch my laptop while performing.
Solution for now is in the thread above, using aka.keyboard max external :

anyway, working perfectly with aka.keyboard. In this case, mapping the letter O.

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chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:28 am

nemoy wrote: 1. remove all other recbuttons (cmd & e)
// but i need them...

2. mapping a Button on the APC to the little
plus icon next to the record icon.
// but thats only for arrangement.. so nope!

3. only arm the one track, i'd like to overdub.
// but i need the others. that's bullshit!

Exact same thing here. Sounds like a joke.
Try the patch above (aka.keyboard required), it works perfectly.

crumhorn · Post by **crumhorn** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:17 am

How can recording into record enabled slots when you press the record button be considered as a bug? surely this is exactly what you would expect.

I'm confused... why enable tracks for recording if you don't want to record on them?

chapelier fou · Post by **chapelier fou** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:31 am

crumhorn wrote: I'm confused... why enable tracks for recording if you don't want to record on them?

In my case, a livelooping setup.

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