racks - chokes vs zones

[rnb0]

Live 9 standard... What do I have to acquire to use choke groups in a randomized multisample drum pad? It seems like I need to go with an instrument rack to allow zone control but instrument racks don't have choke groups. Can I get this with the addition of Sampler? Of 10?

[jestermgee]

Use a drum rack as it has chokes as a feature

[rnb0]

Indeed it does. But it doesn't give me zones which would allow me to randomize multisamples to humanize some live playing from a midi surface. Thus my question; how can I get both the choke capability and zones?

[chrk]

Ableton Sampler does offer key- and velocity zones.

Some of the Ableton and partner packs use these and then convert down to Simpler. That's where you get the "Multisample Mode" message in the sample window from.

If you want to cook your own without owning a Sampler license, build your multisamples in instrument racks and drop them on the cells of a drum rack.

Here's a recent thread where someone does just this: Audition individual layers in an instrument rack

[rnb0]

So if I dropped an instrument rack into a drum rack would the overall choke function of the drum rack work inside of the instrument rack ie. across the multisamples in the instrument rack?

[chrk]

Bad thinking on my side. Chokes obviously don't 'reach' inside the instrument rack.

That leaves Sampler with a single voice.

[rnb0]

Thanks. That's the conclusion I was drifting toward but wanted to be sure.