UC33e native support
UC33e native support
I see that Live 6 has finally included UC33e native surface control support. However it doesn't use half the controls and is pretty useless except for level controls and 8 parameter settings.
Here's a workaround that uses all the buttons, faders and knobs and lets you control pretty much everything. It works for me on a minimac dual-core, may be worth a try.
I used Enigma for editing the UC33. You could also do it by inputting the values directly into the control surface.
Here's how:
In live preferences set Control Surface 1 to BCR2000, and Control Surface 2 to MackieControl. For both set input to UC-33 USB MIDI Controller (Port 1)
The Mackie control protocol lets you do all kind of things with the buttons; the BCR control lets you use the rotary knobs as parameter tweakers and sends 1 and 2. Faders and transport controls common to both (at least the way I've set it up)
Uc33e settings - I've designated programs 1 and 4 to mackie, 3 to BCR (program 2 is left clear for Reason 3 to hijack). You could of course use any program slot you like, whatever's easiest.
I've posted screenshots of the settings at the url below ( sorry but it would take ages to type them all out here) I've also put the exported setting here but not sure if it will work (i'm new to this stuff) javascript:emoticon(':oops:')
Note each setting uses global channel 1
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paultyler3 ... _settings/
How to use it
Once you've programmed in the settings, it works as follows
press Preset 1 - buttons control up/down left/right fire clip/scene etc
top row knobs send 1
middle row send 2
bottom row - nothing (I'd like them to do pan but can't find CCs for that - anybody know what they are in BCR2000 or Mackie?)
Preset 3
top row and middle row as above
bottom row - tweak parameters
buttons - change parameter set
Preset 4
knobs as per preset 1
buttons control everything that wasn't covered in preseet 1 eg changing views, set marker, etc.
Its still not finished, some of buttons do the same thing but I'm waiting to try it out some more before changing them. At least this gives you the basics, youcan easily change to suit yourself.
Hope this is of some help - took me ages fiddling around with a midi keyboard to find the trigger 'notes'
(BTW did you know you can control live with a 'recognised' midi keyboard in the same way - set channel to 1 and just hit the right notes to move up/down trigger clip/scene/ etc etc, just as in the UC33e screenshot example? Just set control, surface to Mackie control and choose your midi keyboard as the controller )
PS apologies for the crap website - its just somewhere to stick stuff and try things out at the moment javascript:emoticon(':lol:')
Here's a workaround that uses all the buttons, faders and knobs and lets you control pretty much everything. It works for me on a minimac dual-core, may be worth a try.
I used Enigma for editing the UC33. You could also do it by inputting the values directly into the control surface.
Here's how:
In live preferences set Control Surface 1 to BCR2000, and Control Surface 2 to MackieControl. For both set input to UC-33 USB MIDI Controller (Port 1)
The Mackie control protocol lets you do all kind of things with the buttons; the BCR control lets you use the rotary knobs as parameter tweakers and sends 1 and 2. Faders and transport controls common to both (at least the way I've set it up)
Uc33e settings - I've designated programs 1 and 4 to mackie, 3 to BCR (program 2 is left clear for Reason 3 to hijack). You could of course use any program slot you like, whatever's easiest.
I've posted screenshots of the settings at the url below ( sorry but it would take ages to type them all out here) I've also put the exported setting here but not sure if it will work (i'm new to this stuff) javascript:emoticon(':oops:')
Note each setting uses global channel 1
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paultyler3 ... _settings/
How to use it
Once you've programmed in the settings, it works as follows
press Preset 1 - buttons control up/down left/right fire clip/scene etc
top row knobs send 1
middle row send 2
bottom row - nothing (I'd like them to do pan but can't find CCs for that - anybody know what they are in BCR2000 or Mackie?)
Preset 3
top row and middle row as above
bottom row - tweak parameters
buttons - change parameter set
Preset 4
knobs as per preset 1
buttons control everything that wasn't covered in preseet 1 eg changing views, set marker, etc.
Its still not finished, some of buttons do the same thing but I'm waiting to try it out some more before changing them. At least this gives you the basics, youcan easily change to suit yourself.
Hope this is of some help - took me ages fiddling around with a midi keyboard to find the trigger 'notes'
(BTW did you know you can control live with a 'recognised' midi keyboard in the same way - set channel to 1 and just hit the right notes to move up/down trigger clip/scene/ etc etc, just as in the UC33e screenshot example? Just set control, surface to Mackie control and choose your midi keyboard as the controller )
PS apologies for the crap website - its just somewhere to stick stuff and try things out at the moment javascript:emoticon(':lol:')
thanks for this..saves me alot of time! dunno if its just me but setting uc-33e as control surface nothing responded and i didnt feel like manually programming everything ..again... so this is good
also have u seen this thread http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30237 has much info on mackie emulation
also have u seen this thread http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30237 has much info on mackie emulation
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Can't seem to get your settings to work on this.. was hoping for Mackie control transport (left and right mainly).. will plug away..
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ahh.. got it sorted.. just neede to re'upload' your settings to the uc33e.. works a treat... thanks very much..
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Re: UC33e native support
xrayfish wrote:I see that Live 6 has finally included UC33e native surface control support.
Hi xrayfish:
I'm new to here and have both UC-33e and Ableton Live 6 work. Wanna know which preset number should be set for UC-33e to launch the "Native Surface Control Support" from Live 6?
Till now, only channel volumn faders work when I set it to preset number 1 but other controllers(ex. Transport's functions, channel pan etc.)
I had set all relative parameters of UC-33e in the Preferences / MIDI Sync tab colums
Thank you very much~
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