Racks Tips Thread!

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Kodama
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Racks Tips Thread!

Post by Kodama » Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:45 pm

What tips have you folks run into using L6?


:?: :idea: :?:
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Post by Kodama » Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:48 pm

Some basics:


- Using Automation Envelopes or Midi Remote Control or Macros,You can automate the chain selector timeline to switch or fade between device groups.

- You can make as many parrallel chains as you want by making new device groups within each other.
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Post by Kodama » Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:58 pm

I just made a rack that switches between four effects rhythmically without having to use automation.

Set alll the autopans to square wave (sine shape 100%), phase 0, offset 0.

Here's the rack (AP=Autopan + Rate + Invert or Normal):

_____________AP 1 Norm (Add effect 1 here)
AP 2 Norm -
_____________AP 1 Inv (Add effect 2 here)


_____________AP 1 Norm (Add effect 3 here)
AP 2 Inv -
_____________AP 1 Inv (Add effect 4 here)


With no effects inserted, this rack should appear to have no effect.

Of course you could change the BPMs, as long as the second 4 Autopans are set to half the first Autopans' speeds.

You could also extend this to go 8 steps, etc...
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Post by fatrabbit » Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:06 pm

Kodama wrote:I just made a rack that switches between four effects rhythmically without having to use automation.

Set alll the autopans to square wave (sine shape 100%), phase 0, offset 0.

Here's the rack (AP=Autopan + Rate + Invert or Normal):

_____________AP 1 Norm (Add effect 1 here)
AP 2 Norm -
_____________AP 1 Inv (Add effect 2 here)


_____________AP 1 Norm (Add effect 3 here)
AP 2 Inv -
_____________AP 1 Inv (Add effect 4 here)


With no effects inserted, this rack should appear to have no effect.

Of course you could change the BPMs, as long as the second 4 Autopans are set to half the first Autopans' speeds.

You could also extend this to go 8 steps, etc...
Could you take a screenshot for clarification?

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Post by ikke » Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:26 pm

Kodama wrote:I just made a rack that switches between four effects rhythmically without having to use automation.

Set alll the autopans to square wave (sine shape 100%), phase 0, offset 0.

Here's the rack (AP=Autopan + Rate + Invert or Normal):

_____________AP 1 Norm (Add effect 1 here)
AP 2 Norm -
_____________AP 1 Inv (Add effect 2 here)


_____________AP 1 Norm (Add effect 3 here)
AP 2 Inv -
_____________AP 1 Inv (Add effect 4 here)


With no effects inserted, this rack should appear to have no effect.

Of course you could change the BPMs, as long as the second 4 Autopans are set to half the first Autopans' speeds.

You could also extend this to go 8 steps, etc...
can you give us that in english too? 8O

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Post by ejectorset » Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:47 pm

i totally understood what you meant.

4 autopans in the same rack.

1 and 2 are the same tempo or speed with the same settings (phase 0, offset 0, set to the sine shape with the shape set to 100% - to make a square wave)

*except* 2 is set to "invert mode" and 1 is not.

3 and 4 are setup the same way, *except* that their speed or tempo divider is either twice or half of what 1 and 2 are set to.

3 is normal
4 is set to "invert mode"


then you put different effects on each chain after the autopans.


the autopans chop your beat up. but with no effects you dont hear a difference. once you add diffferent effects to each autopan's chain, things get interesting.

try it out, good stuff.

best new tip i have seen on here in a long time kodama!
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Post by ikke » Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:51 pm

thanks!

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Post by Airwave » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:45 pm

made this the other day, some kinda reaktoresque sequence.

http://users.telenet.be/iceberg1/trilosequence.zip

You need operator for this one.

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Post by Kodama » Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:07 am

Cool,


Here's one:

Make an effect group of 2-3 EQ 8's set to the preset "Singing A", then set the 8 macros to control frequencies 1-8 of all of the eq 8's.

It makes for a very resonate sound, great for drones, similar to Audio Damage 914.


Now everyone else - keep the rack tips coming!


8)
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Post by jasinski » Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:39 am

Here's one:

1. Create a rack with 3 chains with an instance of EQ Three in each.

2. Turn on only one EQ Three's Gains in each chain; Low, Mid, and High, respectively (so that only one frequency band is passing through each chain Set the gain to 0 DB by default and the set them to 48 slope rather than 24 for clearer band seperation.

3. Map a macro to the "Low" and "High" cut-off freq for all 3 chains.

You have now split the audio signal into 3 seperate bands and can apply seperate effects on each band; Low, Mid, and High, which you can fine tune from the macros.

For example: You can put some verb on just the High, delay on the mids, and compression on the bass.

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Post by fatrabbit » Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:34 pm

ejectorset wrote:i totally understood what you meant.

4 autopans in the same rack.

1 and 2 are the same tempo or speed with the same settings (phase 0, offset 0, set to the sine shape with the shape set to 100% - to make a square wave)

*except* 2 is set to "invert mode" and 1 is not.

3 and 4 are setup the same way, *except* that their speed or tempo divider is either twice or half of what 1 and 2 are set to.

3 is normal
4 is set to "invert mode"


then you put different effects on each chain after the autopans.


the autopans chop your beat up. but with no effects you dont hear a difference. once you add diffferent effects to each autopan's chain, things get interesting.

try it out, good stuff.

best new tip i have seen on here in a long time kodama!
I think a screenshot would be better?!

...Especially for all these examples and those posted in the future.

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Post by Meef Chaloin » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:11 pm

hmm ive tried this but i dont get it

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Post by mr-e » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:19 pm

EFFECT MORPHING :

1) create a rack (RACK A) with a synth/whatever soundgenerator
2a) create a second rack (RACK B) with 2 different effect chains in parallel and place it in RACK A after the soundgenerator
2b) insert a gain utility in front of each effect chain in RACK B , first with volume all the way up , second with volume all the way down
3) assign a knob of RACK A to control the gain of both gain utility plugins
--> assign it so the knob will influence the first gain utility with a range of 127 to 0
--> assign it so the knob will influence the second gain utility with a range of 0 to 127

--> now by controlling the knob in RACK A you can morph from the first effect chain to the second

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Post by jasinski » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:18 am

Get your racks here

And help add to the collection. I will try and keep it current, so you don't have to go digging.

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Beat Divider

Post by Soupsounds » Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:33 pm

Hi - in case any one is watching this topic - I tried the Beat Divider out and was trying to use it simply as a sort of step sequencer for chopping up Clips Live - But wiith all the 8 Beats running I was getting a sort of phasing effect from the Autopans.

Has anyone used this successfully to just turn the individual beats on and off - If so how ?

Looks like a very good idea as you could automate each Beat.

All the best

Richard (www.myspace.com/soupsounds)

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