Tracking to Live - Very poor sound quality

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jonathanpduffy
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Tracking to Live - Very poor sound quality

Post by jonathanpduffy » Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:38 am

Hi,

I've been away from Live for some time... but just upgraded; lots of good stuff in there.

One major problem, that I am sure is something I'm missing.

I track from my mixer into Live (Mainly from MPC and various sound modules). This is no problem in Samplitude SE or Cubase LE, but in Live it produces nasty, low quality distorted wav files. I know it must be a simple setting, but I just can't find what it is. I've fiddled in the Audio preferences with no luck. Any ideas?

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Post by noisetonepause » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:56 am

I used to get something like this in version 3 with my Emagic 2/6. I never found out what it was but it went away.

Hope this helps! :roll:
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Post by 3dot... » Sun Jun 24, 2007 12:43 pm

no problems here......
try to reinstall your SC driver or live maybe ...

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Post by Clearscreen » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:57 pm

are you using warping? some of the warp types can make your audio sound crap...
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Post by 3dot... » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:42 am

Clearscreen wrote:are you using warping? some of the warp types can make your audio sound crap...
+1

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Post by Angstrom » Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:03 am

yes,
don't use 'complex' as any kind of default for tracking.

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preferences -> record warp launch -> default warp mode = beats.

beats means 'off' if the BPM stays the same, so it won't mangle your wave.

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Post by Dan Dare » Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:43 pm

Angstrom wrote:yes,
don't use 'complex' as any kind of default for tracking.

recommended
preferences -> record warp launch -> default warp mode = beats.

beats means 'off' if the BPM stays the same, so it won't mangle your wave.
If you're only tracking with no warping why should it matter what warp setting you have.

If warping is off the tracking should sound the same as what you were monitoring, shouldn't it?

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Post by Tarekith » Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:17 pm

If warping is off, then yes it'll sound the same, if not, then it could sound different depending on what warp algorithm you're using.

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Post by Angstrom » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:07 pm

Dan Dare wrote:
Angstrom wrote:yes,
don't use 'complex' as any kind of default for tracking.

recommended
preferences -> record warp launch -> default warp mode = beats.

beats means 'off' if the BPM stays the same, so it won't mangle your wave.
If you're only tracking with no warping why should it matter what warp setting you have.

If warping is off the tracking should sound the same as what you were monitoring, shouldn't it?
live has a preference setting to warp recorded clips. I assume the sound quality issue was during re-playing audio, not simply during monitoring (?)
as the OP refers to'wav files' I would recommend setting wav files bit depth to at least 24 bit in preferences (for clip recording)

Anyway, If you record audio into a clip it will most likely have warping on playback by default. Some users select 'complex' as their standard warp algo, assuming it is 'better'. In fact it is simply a different type of timestretch, 'frequency windowing' was just too long to put in the pulldown I guess.

this may not be the issue, hard to tell from here!

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Post by Dan Dare » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:12 pm

Ahhh, Yes, I am with you. Thanks!

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