Is experimental electronica in a rut?

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by RonaldDumsfeld » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:30 pm

Secede, Lucine, pantha du prince.

All great tips. Thx. Keep 'em coming plse.

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by Android Bishop » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:31 pm

I'm a big fan of Kilowatts

Ground State is a great album to start with

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by dum » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:06 pm

Pasha wrote:Thanks dum for being so precise.

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by opus40 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:37 am

For the record, none of the artists that anybody has mentioned on my thread so far have interested me any. Maybe I should just listen more to new stuff in other genres.

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by dum » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:47 am

Have you considered physician assisted suicide ?
Pasha wrote:Thanks dum for being so precise.

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by ethios4 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:47 pm

Looks like it's up to you to pull experimental electronica out of its rut then.

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by Moody » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:07 pm

anybody human wrote:Multimedia performance, that's where it's at. Not multimedia, the performance of multimedia, where the walls move and people move and sound and light reflect that. Check out Chunky Move's Mortal Engine, it was linked here recently. That's what's new, that's where music is going with technology and cross discipline collaboration.

I don't want to see a band or a DJ looking cool onstage, it's just tedious. There will always be a place for artists like that, Aphex, BOC, Radiohead etc. but the music has to be mind blowing. The audio visual thing suggests new ideas to musicians I feel and technology is going to start zooming with regards to making visual physical, there's a group at MIT that literally bends the walls in their performance, imagine what that could sound like.
Couldn’t agree more; the music so much does not need to change as the experience does. Usually, when we find things in a strange way not moving forward or possibly moving backwards it is usually a sign of great change occurring in the background. Then suddenly as though it came from the ether a new experience is born, but actually provided by this time of struggle.

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by ethios4 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:13 pm

Nice one Moody!

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by silveriofunk » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:56 pm

opus40 wrote:For the record, none of the artists that anybody has mentioned on my thread so far have interested me any. Maybe I should just listen more to new stuff in other genres.
Baroness
ali farka toure
gil scot-heron
mastodon

all of these people have released albums within the last year, all of them mind blowing all of them different. If you're only getting your fix from electronic experimental music you are missing a lot of great stuff.

Peace!

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by opus40 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:19 pm

silveriofunk wrote:
opus40 wrote:For the record, none of the artists that anybody has mentioned on my thread so far have interested me any. Maybe I should just listen more to new stuff in other genres.
Baroness
ali farka toure
gil scot-heron
mastodon

all of these people have released albums within the last year, all of them mind blowing all of them different. If you're only getting your fix from electronic experimental music you are missing a lot of great stuff.

Peace!
Let me elaborate by saying that there are a good number of current artists that I do enjoy that are not experimental electronica (in fact, they're quickly outnumbering the ones that are). I just don't happen to love metal or old blues guys.
dum wrote:Have you considered physician assisted suicide ?
this is why I generally refrain from participating in forums.

So screw y'all, I'm gonna get into indiepop just to spite all you laptop wankers. At least there's some money in it, not a bunch of hairy art school grads who torrent all their music anyway. Although I suppose both genres attract that type of audience.

I'm really not a total douchebag (well, maybe I am) but I guess I'm just fed up with stuff that's overly conceptual, and I've had my fill of experimental electronica. I mean, it's not a genre that most people, musicians included, ever try out anyway. So I don't feel like I'm making too bold a statement here.

Again, music is totally relative, and everything I've expressed is merely an opinion.

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by Plague1715 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:07 am

I really think that multimedia performance is the future, but it needs to be exposed to more musicians so they can incorporate it and exposed to more fans so they will except it. But not just some guy with a laptop and a monome standing in the middle of an art gallery, but like a rock show where the crowd can somehow interact with the audio and visuals, with motion sensors all over the floor, and live video manipulation.

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by opus40 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:03 am

Plague1715 wrote:I really think that multimedia performance is the future, but it needs to be exposed to more musicians so they can incorporate it and exposed to more fans so they will except it. But not just some guy with a laptop and a monome standing in the middle of an art gallery, but like a rock show where the crowd can somehow interact with the audio and visuals, with motion sensors all over the floor, and live video manipulation.
I like the sound of that

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by Android Bishop » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:25 am

Plague1715 wrote:I really think that multimedia performance is the future, but it needs to be exposed to more musicians so they can incorporate it and exposed to more fans so they will except it. But not just some guy with a laptop and a monome standing in the middle of an art gallery, but like a rock show where the crowd can somehow interact with the audio and visuals, with motion sensors all over the floor, and live video manipulation.

all that shit is just icing. it can totally make the cake look awesome, but the most important feature is good cake. if the music is inspiring, then it doesnt matter what the dude on the stage is doing because people are going to create their own interactive reactions as a result. the best parties ive ever been to were in shitty warehouses with the dj/performer tucked away in a corner that no one could see and a few lights with colored cellophane placed sporatically as decor. The music itself is what drove the inspiration, not some gimmicks

gimmicks ARE cool though

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by SimonPHC » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:59 am

Is experimental electronica in a rut?
No, but because of the internet you just see much more shit, so the ratio good/bad is certainly different. Also, the bands you mention, the big ones, are old stuff. They're all probably listening to Untold, Scuba and Library or Kraut compilations so on their iPods and wondering where that leaves them. To new to get revived, to old to be significant. The new Autechre is pretty good, but I don't think anyone but avid followers will notice.

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Re: Is experimental electronica in a rut?

Post by Donnie » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:46 pm

Android Bishop wrote:the best parties ive ever been to were in shitty warehouses with the dj/performer tucked away in a corner that no one could see and a few lights with colored cellophane placed sporatically as decor.
That was great back in the day, but nowadays people are looking for something a little "more"

The mystery of the anonymous man playing records is over, everyone knows whats going on back there now.

As far as the title goes, imo experimental electronica IS a rut. Once something is coined experimental it seems like its all downhill from there, becoming a fad of fancy tricks just for the sake of it. Im all about progression, but not at the expense of substance.

Just my opinion of course.

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