Faith VS Atheism

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Re: Faith VS Atheism

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Re: Faith VS Atheism

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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by slatepipe » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:27 pm

is that the spaghetti thing?

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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by nuperspective » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:18 am

its the famous flying spagetti monster.... google it

refenced a few times in richard dawkins - the god delusion.... well worth a read.

i can sum up everything in 3 words... "religion is bollocks"

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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by mikemc » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:34 am

supamonsta wrote:I like Faith Fuck porn, +1000 for this thread, wait, I'm buying some popcorn :twisted:

well, re-reading your OP, Dum:
red herring nonsense
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WHAT THE HELL IS THAT????
not sure if you really don't know, so I will explain because i feel like it, from wikipedia
A "red herring" is a deliberate attempt to divert a process of enquiry by changing the subject.

For example:

"I think that we should make the academic requirements stricter for students. I recommend that you support this because we are in a budget crisis and we do not want our salaries affected."

Topic A is the proposal that academic requirements be raised. Topic B is the possible effects of a budget crisis on teacher salaries. Topic A is abandoned and the unrelated topic B is introduced.
To the exact point of the OP, in meaningful logical debate about material/social/governmental concerns, introducing a religious consideration is a deliberate attempt to derail the discussion. Or, as Jesus said, "give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's etc...":

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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by LoopStationZebra » Fri Jun 11, 2010 2:41 am

All of you non believing atheist asswipes won't be so smugly self satisfied when Yog-Sothoth comes to rip out the souls you think you don't have.

And it's gonna hurt.

Don't say I didn't warn you. Or tell you so. Or something.

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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by Bleep Blop Ima Robot » Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:06 am

Faith in consciousness. :)
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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by aisling » Fri Jun 11, 2010 3:30 am

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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by distaudio » Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:25 am

Agnostic here.

Never understood the whole organised religion thing.

I usually screw up church folk by asking.
"Do you believe you have a direct relationship with God?"
Answer always comes back as "Yes, of course"

My response.
"So why do you require the church as your middle man?"

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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by djsynchro » Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:20 am

distaudio wrote: I usually screw up church folk by asking.
"Do you believe you have a direct relationship with God?"
Answer always comes back as "Yes, of course"

My response.
"So why do you require the church as your middle man?"
this
I will remember that one :D

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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by nathannn » Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:24 am

distaudio wrote:Agnostic here.

Never understood the whole organised religion thing.

I usually screw up church folk by asking.
"Do you believe you have a direct relationship with God?"
Answer always comes back as "Yes, of course"

My response.
"So why do you require the church as your middle man?"
and im sure they denounce their religion do to your wit eh?
why try to strip a person of their beliefs ? i dont get it?
if they identify with something leave them alone and let them be happy.
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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by H20nly » Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:55 am

nathannn wrote:
distaudio wrote:Agnostic here.

Never understood the whole organised religion thing.

I usually screw up church folk by asking.
"Do you believe you have a direct relationship with God?"
Answer always comes back as "Yes, of course"

My response.
"So why do you require the church as your middle man?"
and im sure they denounce their religion do to your wit eh?
why try to strip a person of their beliefs ? i dont get it?
if they identify with something leave them alone and let them be happy.
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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by nuperspective » Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:42 am

one thing is all christians / muslims / religious zealots etc ARE atheists..... when it comes to islam / christianity / other religions etc. as they all believe their god is the one true god.

so why not take the equation further to its natural conclusion - zero.

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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by UKRuss » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:51 am

I have found I have a lot in common with believers. We all share a belief that all other believers are wrong. We just disagree on their god.

'Is it not enough to see that the garden is beautiful without having to believe there are fairies at the bottom of it too?' - Douglas Adams

'I would never die for my beliefs, because I might be wrong' - Bertrand Russell.

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Re: Faith VS Atheism

Post by nuperspective » Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:05 am

UKRuss wrote:I have found I have a lot in common with believers. We all share a belief that all other believers are wrong. We just disagree on their god.

'Is it not enough to see that the garden is beautiful without having to believe there are fairies at the bottom of it too?' - Douglas Adams

'I would never die for my beliefs, because I might be wrong' - Bertrand Russell.
well said that man.

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