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best use of phaser EVER

Post by memes_33 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:35 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeXBm3Iw ... re=related

i love this song, and it has the most amazing psychedelic phasing at the end where all of the instruments eventually get sucked in. i'm not a big fan of the phasing effect in general, but this shit is perfect!

oh, it starts around 2:20
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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by Winterpark » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:10 am

rad. thanks for that!
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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by djsynchro » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:58 am

It's tape flanging, syncing 2 tape recorders, then working the vari speed on one, or, pressing down the tape reel flange (hence the name).
Because one of the decks slips ahead AND behind in time there comes a point where a lot of frequencies cancel out and you get a very deep "dip" in the sound.
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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by djsynchro » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:07 am

It (...) works.

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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by Martyn » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:07 am

I wonder why it doesn't seem to work that well using dsp, I don't think I've ever heard a phaser plugin that really works as good as the old fashioned method, certainly not the Live one.

Nice tune btw.

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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by djsynchro » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:14 am

A phaser creates its effect electronically using comb filters, so it sounds somewhat similar but technically and sonically it's not the same. There are "through zero" flanger plug-ins that delay the signal so the modulated path can be before and after in time relative to the other signal (go "through zero). The old school way of doing it has the benefit of being from tape going to tape again so obtaining more of the fat sounding tape distortion.

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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by anybody human » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:37 pm

Very cool. Thanks for sharing. And thanks DJSynchro for the knowledge, explained it so well I almost get it :)

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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by nebulae » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:44 pm

I hadn't heard that before - so thx for that :)
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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by MPGK » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:32 pm

Guys, could you please add Artist and Song name when posting YouTube links?

More than often I can't open them because Sony is deleting every little bit of audio published by them or one of their many sublabels from German YouTube.
So I don't have a clue what track you guys are talking about right now.

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Also, YouTube doesn't even have the decency to display what exactly I'm not privileged to see. Which is, if you ask me, pure bitchiness.

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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by docprosper » Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:59 pm

am wrote:It's tape flanging, syncing 2 tape recorders, then working the vari speed on one, or, pressing down the tape reel flange (hence the name).
Because one of the decks slips ahead AND behind in time there comes a point where a lot of frequencies cancel out and you get a very deep "dip" in the sound
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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by necho » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:19 pm

classic tune.
Martyn wrote:I wonder why it doesn't seem to work that well using dsp, I don't think I've ever heard a phaser plugin that really works as good as the old fashioned method, certainly not the Live one.
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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by nebulae » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:33 pm

PSP Nitro has a phaser built into it as well. In serial with a waveshaper or a multimode filter, it can do some neat stuff.
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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by xrayfish » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:42 pm

Audiodamage's LIQUID does a good job of this

http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/prod ... ?pid=AD015

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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by steko » Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:48 pm

MPGK wrote:Guys, could you please add Artist and Song name when posting YouTube links?

More than often I can't open them because Sony is deleting every little bit of audio published by them or one of their many sublabels from German YouTube.
So I don't have a clue what track you guys are talking about right now.

Edit:
Also, YouTube doesn't even have the decency to display what exactly I'm not privileged to see. Which is, if you ask me, pure bitchiness.
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Re: best use of phaser EVER

Post by Angstrom » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:28 pm

Wow, I totally expected the linked song to be some kind of tedious dirge-like "anthem" featuring all of the popular loops and a 909 kick, etc.

but instead it's Shuggie Otis - Strawberry Letter 23

Unexpectedly groovy baby.

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