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apparently I have to wait till march to get an apc from my local music shop....

all the online stored are out. anyone know of anyone with apc's left in stock?

I would wait. Such a production shortage makes me suspicious - either the product is going to be revamped and re-released better (and I wouldn't put it past AKAI to deflect and deny until NAMM in January and then announce the new shiny version, meaning you will kick yourself for buying an obsoleted version), or something was wrong with the ones out already which is requiring a new part that is in short supply, meaning the product should be more reliable when it becomes available again.

I've never known a product be unavailable for months without there being something major behind it.

Either way - I wouldn't be in a hurry to buy an APC40 right now, in spite of the awesomeness of the device etc. I would hold out until the new year, wait to see if anything is announced at NAMM, if yes, get the new machine, if not, wait for the APC40 to get back into production with whatever it's taken them so long to fix.

leedsquietman wrote:I would wait. Such a production shortage makes me suspicious - either the product is going to be revamped and re-released better (and I wouldn't put it past AKAI to deflect and deny until NAMM in January and then announce the new shiny version, meaning you will kick yourself for buying an obsoleted version), or something was wrong with the ones out already which is requiring a new part that is in short supply, meaning the product should be more reliable when it becomes available again.

I've never known a product be unavailable for months without there being something major behind it.

Either way - I wouldn't be in a hurry to buy an APC40 right now, in spite of the awesomeness of the device etc. I would hold out until the new year, wait to see if anything is announced at NAMM, if yes, get the new machine, if not, wait for the APC40 to get back into production with whatever it's taken them so long to fix.

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squelcht wrote:http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid ... Categories

thanks squeltch, but I'm really trying to find a source within canada. I've have bad experiences with customs before ( had a bike that got held, then never showed up)

leeds, you sound smart and make a good point, i think I'm going to wait now.

There is also the possibility that the new model will be worse than the previous model. So it can be smart to wait for some in-depth reviews to come in before rushing out to buy the latest model. This might also mean that you can pick up the original model used for an even better price.

i think its more likely to be a scam to sell more apc20's wich without looking i would take a guess are readily available everywhere.

Stonee: So fucking what? honestly, come on.

Just get a Launchpad. They're funner anyways (and cheaper...and available)

I sold my APC after owning it for a month or two. Got a LP & was since. Smaller. USB powered. And did I mention smaller?

squelcht wrote:Just get a Launchpad. They're funner anyways (and cheaper...and available)

I sold my APC after owning it for a month or two. Got a LP & was since. Smaller. USB powered. And did I mention smaller?

It just perks.

Canada is hardly all of north america, infact no one cares about canada.

People from the USA have said the same thing about availability, hence the term NORTH AMERICA (which includes the USA, Canada and Mexico in case you weren't aware), smartass

The Launchpad might be 'funner' but it doesn't offer the same functionality in the same way, yes if you have other controllers which provide knobs and faders you might find it a better option.

The conspiracy theory about the APC20 is interesting, and stranger things have happened ...

leedsquietman wrote:People from the USA have said the same thing about availability, hence the term NORTH AMERICA (which includes the USA, Canada and Mexico in case you weren't aware), smartass

The Launchpad might be 'funner' but it doesn't offer the same functionality in the same way, yes if you have other controllers which provide knobs and faders you might find it a better option.

The conspiracy theory about the APC20 is interesting, and stranger things have happened ...

I went to Guitar Center to pick up my Akai MPK88 and asked them how many units they have in their stores. He said they have 11 APC 40's in their store and 248 in the south East region. 15 APC 20's instore and 489 in the region. So no.... I don't think there is anything behind it.

Digital_Damage wrote:

leedsquietman wrote:People from the USA have said the same thing about availability, hence the term NORTH AMERICA (which includes the USA, Canada and Mexico in case you weren't aware), smartass

The Launchpad might be 'funner' but it doesn't offer the same functionality in the same way, yes if you have other controllers which provide knobs and faders you might find it a better option.

The conspiracy theory about the APC20 is interesting, and stranger things have happened ...

I went to Guitar Center to pick up my Akai MPK88 and asked them how many units they have in their stores. He said they have 11 APC 40's in their store and 248 in the south East region. 15 APC 20's instore and 489 in the region. So no.... I don't think there is anything behind it.

Just goes to show that people are more comfortable assuming there's a continent wide shortage than having to buy anything from Guitar Center.