A Question For Republicans (us politics)

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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by doghouse » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:48 pm

starving student wrote:the main concerns expressed by the republican party which is

god
patriotism
guns
jobs
political honesty
None of the above, reducing both taxes and federal spending is #1 on the Republican agenda.

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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by LoopStationZebra » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:22 pm

stringtapper wrote:
beats me wrote:I’ll simply ask again the question that you ignored in a previous thread.

What is your solution to the health care problem AND you really think our government is more corrupt or inefficient than the other first world countries that have already had socialized health care for a long time?

Feel free to ignore that question. Again.

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Doesn't the question pre-suppose that the person being asked agrees that a "health care problem" exists?
The question (actually end statement) also pre-supposes that socialized health care in other first world countries is actually an awesome thing and works better. It doesn't. No amount of goofy NYTimes articles and Michael Moore documentaries will change the fact that it's broken (or breaking) in many countries. ffs. Several Euro countries have seen an explosion of both private healthcare and insurance in the last decade because people are fucking fed up, lol. And can we talk about how many wealthy Europeans and Canadians love to fly to the states for treatment? Yes, yes we can. :lol:

The reason it's worked (sort of...up until now, anyway) in many of those countries is that the fucking populations are 1/10th that of the United States. Hell, most are far less. It's way easier to manage that kind of thing. The sheer numbers here will require a bureaucracy the likes of which the world has never seen. Are you fine with that? Really? Because it scares the ever loving shit out of me and many other Americans. It's FAR more difficult to be corrupt when the number of government workers responsible for healthcare oversight in Denmark could fit into a Volkswagon minibus. But here in the USA? see: GSA fun in Vegas. No oversight until well after the fact because the number of motherfucking GSA workers is probably EQUAL to the entire population of Denmark. LOL. :lol:

My answer is actually quite simple, and Romney had it 100% correct when he was governor: Let each State decide. There's absolutely ZERO fucking reason for some massive national healthcare system. wtf? Why not simply approach this on a more European scale? At the State level. Vermont, Oregon, Maine, and California decide they want their State government to run everyone's healthcare? Awesome. Fantastico. That should be their God Given Right as socialists. lol.


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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by LoopStationZebra » Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:25 pm

LoopStationZebra wrote:The sheer numbers here will require a bureaucracy the likes of which the world has never seen.
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THIS.

omfg.

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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by beats me » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:00 am

LoopStationZebra wrote:
stringtapper wrote:
beats me wrote:I’ll simply ask again the question that you ignored in a previous thread.

What is your solution to the health care problem AND you really think our government is more corrupt or inefficient than the other first world countries that have already had socialized health care for a long time?

Feel free to ignore that question. Again.

:x
Doesn't the question pre-suppose that the person being asked agrees that a "health care problem" exists?
The question (actually end statement) also pre-supposes that socialized health care in other first world countries is actually an awesome thing and works better. It doesn't. No amount of goofy NYTimes articles and Michael Moore documentaries will change the fact that it's broken (or breaking) in many countries. ffs. Several Euro countries have seen an explosion of both private healthcare and insurance in the last decade because people are fucking fed up, lol. And can we talk about how many wealthy Europeans and Canadians love to fly to the states for treatment? Yes, yes we can. :lol:

The reason it's worked (sort of...up until now, anyway) in many of those countries is that the fucking populations are 1/10th that of the United States. Hell, most are far less. It's way easier to manage that kind of thing. The sheer numbers here will require a bureaucracy the likes of which the world has never seen. Are you fine with that? Really? Because it scares the ever loving shit out of me and many other Americans. It's FAR more difficult to be corrupt when the number of government workers responsible for healthcare oversight in Denmark could fit into a Volkswagon minibus. But here in the USA? see: GSA fun in Vegas. No oversight until well after the fact because the number of motherfucking GSA workers is probably EQUAL to the entire population of Denmark. LOL. :lol:

My answer is actually quite simple, and Romney had it 100% correct when he was governor: Let each State decide. There's absolutely ZERO fucking reason for some massive national healthcare system. wtf? Why not simply approach this on a more European scale? At the State level. Vermont, Oregon, Maine, and California decide they want their State government to run everyone's healthcare? Awesome. Fantastico. That should be their God Given Right as socialists. lol.


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I can't really argue with any of that.

I'm going to go play with my iPad now.

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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by starving student » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:34 am

LoopStationZebra wrote:When the zombie apocalypse hits, are you going to want ass-kicking bow hunting skin-em-whilst-their-still-warm Ted Nugent on your team? Or some namby pamby dyed-in-the-wool sensitive lefty who's prattling on about the rights of illegal immigrants and attends every Occupy demonstration in the hope that Big Bankers and Big Oil will play fair?

Think about it carefully before answering, bro.

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okay so basically you're saying that this culture of fear is with us for the long hall. the only reason their would be an apocalypse in the first place is because one of teds cousins would press the red button. honestly the teds of the world are afraid of gay people, afraid of _insert people here______, afraid of everything under the sun including their own shadows it's pretty ridiculous, and all of their guns, arrows, cowboy hats, and john wayne reruns don't seem to be making them any less insecure.

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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by starving student » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:37 am

LoopStationZebra wrote:..and really. Even before the zombie apocalypse hits, would you want to party with THIS guy:
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or THIS guy:
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:lol:

again unfortunately partying with ted could get me lynched, at least with the tax the rich guy I could actually close both of my eyes if I got too tuckered out to drive home and had to crash on the couch.... but the teds of the world on the other hand would have me wake up naked in the forest while they tell me to run and not worry cause they'll give me a 10 min head start :x
i don't think so

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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by stringtapper » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:41 am

starving student wrote:okay so basically you're saying that this culture of fear is with us for the long hall.
Which culture of fear? Yours or the other side's? Because you know and I know that both of you have one.

starving student wrote:the only reason their would be an apocalypse in the first place is because one of teds cousins would press the red button.
He said zombie apocalypse, ss. We know politics isn't your strong suit, but you're breaking my heart with science fiction fail.
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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by stringtapper » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:43 am

starving student wrote: again unfortunately partying with ted could get me lynched, at least with the tax the rich guy I could actually close both of my eyes if I got too tuckered out to drive home and had to crash on the couch.... but the teds of the world on the other hand would have me wake up naked in the forest while they tell me to run and not worry cause they'll give me a 10 min head start :x
i don't think so
You're going to die of a heart attack at an early age if you actually walk around living with this kind of paranoia.
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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by starving student » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:45 am

stringtapper wrote:
beats me wrote:how is he going to handle it when he doesn't have insurance.
My best guess is that the answer is: "not like a whining socialist pussy."

:P

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now that's a campaign slogan if I ever saw one, better hurry up and send that off to the RNC
because it's 2012 and at least they still know the value in labeling people like this in america :|

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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by stringtapper » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:47 am

That was just my best guess. I know how LSZ feels about socialism.

Me, I don't give a fuck unless legalizing cannibalism is on the ballot.
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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by starving student » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:49 am

doghouse wrote:
starving student wrote:the main concerns expressed by the republican party which is

god
patriotism
guns
jobs
political honesty
None of the above, reducing both taxes and federal spending is #1 on the Republican agenda.

nope they have clearly shown that at best that could be # 3, god is first, gun rights is second, and then so called fiscal responsibility which I didn't list because for both parties it's not a sincere notion.

but what is your answer to the question, what is the reaon to vote for romney ?

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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by stringtapper » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:49 am

Btw, have any Republicans answered yet? Maybe in a pm? :lol:
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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by starving student » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:58 am

stringtapper wrote:
starving student wrote:okay so basically you're saying that this culture of fear is with us for the long hall.
Which culture of fear? Yours or the other side's? Because you know and I know that both of you have one.

starving student wrote:the only reason their would be an apocalypse in the first place is because one of teds cousins would press the red button.
He said zombie apocalypse, ss. We know politics isn't your strong suit, but you're breaking my heart with science fiction fail.
umm actually loopsy was the one who included zombies in a political discussion not I, you might want to re-read and think about that one cause there is an epiphany some where waiting for you to start its day.

when it comes to fear I'm afraid of two things, which is very different from being afraid of everything.
1. I'm afraid of a scary fool with a gun and

2. I'm afraid of trayvon martin

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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by starving student » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:00 am

stringtapper wrote:
starving student wrote: again unfortunately partying with ted could get me lynched, at least with the tax the rich guy I could actually close both of my eyes if I got too tuckered out to drive home and had to crash on the couch.... but the teds of the world on the other hand would have me wake up naked in the forest while they tell me to run and not worry cause they'll give me a 10 min head start :x
i don't think so
You're going to die of a heart attack at an early age if you actually walk around living with this kind of paranoia.
thanks for the concern string but I think it would be less wasted on ted himself, next year he's going to either be dead or in jail, you and I should start an intervention :lol:

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Re: A Question For Republicans

Post by stringtapper » Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:09 am

starving student wrote:umm actually loopsy was the one who included zombies in a political discussion not I, you might want to re-read and think about that one cause there is an epiphany some where waiting for you to start its day.
See, you making the point that LSZ brought zombies into the discussion is actually not a point at all because this is what I said:
stringtapper wrote:He said zombie apocalypse, ss. We know politics isn't your strong suit, but you're breaking my heart with science fiction fail.
I highlighted it there for you so you can see that I already made it clear to everyone that LSZ was the one who brought them into the discussion. So why are you repeating it? Your "science fiction fail" resulted from you confusing a vanilla apocalypse that some right-wingers might start with a zombie apocalypse that will almost certainly be started by the Chinese. You're welcome for the clarification.
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