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 Post subject: Soccer: on top of being very boring...
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:49 pm 

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is apparently also totally corrupt, and in many cases, rigged.


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 Post subject: Re: Soccer: on top of being very boring...
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:24 pm 

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i saw this today too. i never really supported a team but up until last year i keenly followed the leagues and every 4 years would go mental when the world cup was on, and to a slightly lesser degree when the euros were on. and watching match of the day every saturday night was compulsory. it used to piss the mrs off no end - she'd just go to bed

over the last year i have had a slow epiphany (helped a great deal by the olympics) and come to realise that football is fairly shit. they are paid far too much money and often they aren't even particularly good. tickets to see a game are ridiculously expensive and i'm starting to think they all look a bit daft running about kicking a ball. i haven't watched match of the day all season, when there's a game on in the pub i wont pay any attention to it or i'll leave. i still haven't totally broken my habit of checking the leagues but nowadays if i see a team has moved up or down a position or two i just think 'so what?'. the way i think about it now is that it's a waste of time and it doesn't matter

and now it's been discovered that it's massively fixed

there was i time when i couldn't get enough of it - when the world cup was on in korea and japan i would get up at about 7am in the morning, start drinking and watch three full games one after the other

sport is sometimes ace to watch - when mo farah and nicola adams won those medals i was in bits. i never got nothing like that from football

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 Post subject: Re: Soccer: on top of being very boring...
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Fixing a sport where exactly 1 point is scored on average sounds quite complex. Basketball where like 200 points are scored on average sounds like it would a lot more manageable to fix.

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 Post subject: Re: Soccer: on top of being very boring...
PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:39 pm 

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the 'how' was one part of the story i haven't heard yet, whether it was players or refs being paid off, and how they went about it...seems to have been directed from 'asia' somewhere, and was so widespread that there's little doubt it was happening


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Yeah, based in Singapore. Three levels: bottom level were people who went and placed the bets on fixed games. Middle level were people who knew (or could get to) players and referees who were known to be 'receptive' to a bribe and set up whatever the fix would be. Top level were the financiers and money launderers who funded and moved money around so it wasn't noticed or could be traced.

Amazing that such a large and complex scam could go unnoticed for as long as it did.

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 Post subject: Re: Soccer: on top of being very boring...
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hmmm, i wonder about that lampard disallowed goal in the last world cup....

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what the fuck is soccer?

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By the way I live in Trafford. That bloke in the red shirt looks familiar.

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 Post subject: Re: Soccer: on top of being very boring...
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beats me wrote:
Fixing a sport where exactly 1 point is scored on average sounds quite complex. Basketball where like 200 points are scored on average sounds like it would a lot more manageable to fix.


i dunno... it seems like every time you would get the game fixed in your favor some a-hole would put you down a point. rinse, repeat.


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 Post subject: Re: Soccer: on top of being very boring...
PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:48 pm 

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Must be mainly lower division clubs. The numbers just don't add up for top tier football.

300 matches, 8M euros profit, 2M euros in bribes.

So on average, 6666 euros of bribes per game. Bribing refs and linesmen will only get you so far, as they can't be too obvious, and even heavily siding with one team won't always swing the result.

Bribing a few key players? Not with that kind of money.

There's either much more to come, or it's blown out of proportion.


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