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rap masta rj
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Consciousness

Post by rap masta rj » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:48 pm

Is it possible to prove that consciousness is reserved only for that which is considered alive? I was reading an article about how it has been discovered that plants have a certain degree of consciousness and it got me thinking. The concept of matter having consciousness is a ridiculous concept but is it really possible to disprove that?

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Re: Consciousness

Post by 8O » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:50 pm

1. Yes.
2. Yes.

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rap masta rj
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Re: Consciousness

Post by rap masta rj » Tue Apr 09, 2013 4:52 pm

8O wrote:1. Yes.
2. Yes.

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Explain and/or reference please :D

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Re: Consciousness

Post by knotkranky » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:46 pm

Not so fast,

you're gonna have to define 'consciousness' before moving onto your Q's.

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Re: Consciousness

Post by H20nly » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:57 pm

did this book happen to be about Theosophy and make several references to H. P. Blavatsky?

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Re: Consciousness

Post by Donnie » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:35 pm

I think the term consciousness is still up for debate. Our perspective of 'alive' and 'conscious' are pretty much dictated by movement and reaction at this point, right? Without one of those two things I feel there is currently no real physical scientific way for us to recognize 'consciousness'. Perhaps if the object communicated with you telepathically, but since that communication occurs within the observers subjective consciousness it could still be argued that the observer is just crazy. That is, until a way is found to accurately peek inside the observers subconscious as a way to prove that the communication actually happened. Hypothetically, of course.

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Re: Consciousness

Post by infernal.machine » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:42 pm

Prove that animals have consciousness.

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Re: Consciousness

Post by knotkranky » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:43 pm

^ Prove you know what consciousness is.

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Re: Consciousness

Post by infernal.machine » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:45 am

^Prove you know what knowing is.

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Re: Consciousness

Post by stringtapper » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:52 am

^ Prove anything can be proved.
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Re: Consciousness

Post by H20nly » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:54 am

^ Prove

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Re: Consciousness

Post by stringtapper » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:56 am

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Re: Consciousness

Post by Donnie » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:59 am

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Re: Consciousness

Post by stringtapper » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:13 am

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Re: Consciousness

Post by simmerdown » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:16 am

rap masta rj wrote:Is it possible to prove that consciousness is reserved only for that which is considered alive? I was reading an article about how it has been discovered that plants have a certain degree of consciousness and it got me thinking. The concept of matter having consciousness is a ridiculous concept but is it really possible to disprove that?
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